Kamen Rider Den-O [Talk Up - Spoilers]

One thing that Kabuto always had, from the start, who sucked:

Hiyori.

She was useless, annoying and repetive. I liked Kabuto throughout the first half, but when you saw that...well, uh - you have 5 different Riders, one a star and not showing up randomly and just stupid stuff, I started to die off the love for it.

Without Tsurugi, Kabuto would of sucked horribly in Part 2.
 
if you go that way that your business but to me GIRLS COUNT XD:laugh:

totally AGREED
and also agree with LadyMercury, tsurugi was jsut comic relief 'til the final episodes...yaguruma made way more than him...also, when tsurugi first appeared, he only did his badass part for 2 or 3 episodes...
 
I bet the 2nd rider is going to be the guy who controled Kintaros the 1st time, cause a streak of his hair was yellow when Kintaros was with him, so im betting on him if we have one
 
You clearly seem to antagonize people for making the slightest negative remark to this masterpiece of a show.

There are four active rider suits in Den O, Two confirmed forms for the second rider, and a possible combined form, which means that there are seven "riders" in Den O. Get your facts straight.

Uh...like you said. POSSIBLE combined form. Which doesn't make it a fact. How can I get my facts straight if you are basing your argument on RUMORS. And Kabuto had 15 Rider suits as I said. Hibiki had 15 as well. Ryuki had around 15 also. And Kabuto by episode 13 still has more suits than Den-o

How do you know that Den O will have less than 25 imagines if we're only 14 episodes in? What makes you think they won't have multiple imagines in a show? Did you ever include the four that we have already as main characters?

I am cleary making an assumption here just like you made an assumption that there will be a possible combined form. I said at this rate with one monster for every two episodes will likely mean the show with have around 25 Imagins.

You are assuming things, the budget is based off of ratings. Did you know Kabuto was the lowest rated rider... EVER? Yeah, it was.

I also notice that each new show has been declining in ratings ever since Agito. This means I think the budget is going down every series. That is why Im not remotely surprise that Kabuto was the lowest rated rider series ever. Just like Hibiki was when it came out and just like how Blade was the lowest rated when it finished airing.

I doubt a suit creator makes a shows worth of monsters in one day.

That wasn't even my point. Are you even reading what Im trying to say? It's probably more expensive to hire someone or a department worth of suit makers than animators which can do the job of suit maker as well as other effects.

Letterbox doesn't mean HD! Kabuto was the first Kamen Rider to be filmed in HD.

Still doesn't help the fact that you said they had to buy new cameras for Den-o when they started using it in Kabuto already.

Those are called locations. What are you trying to say here?

I guess you don't pay enough attention to what you say before. You made it sound like Den-o has such a high budget it has TWO sound stages and they go filming on location when in fact they have been doing it for 8 freaking years already.

I guess you failed to read the Toei website where it said it takes 2 hours of makeup. Also Takeru mentioned it on his blog. They have to style his hair a certain way, and they actually have to APPLY make up to his face and put contacts in. You think that's easy? 2 hours in hair/makeup/costuming is NORMAL.

If that is the normal amount of time required for make up I don't understand why you had to mention it like it was something special. That means all the show prior to it spend that much time for Make up. I don't see how that makes Den-o more high budget cause they are doing everything NORMALY and not extra.

You sure use Kabuto a lot. You don't think I've watched Kabuto? I think I have.

Because I don't think you watch any of the other Rider shows like Kuuga and Agito. This is why I am sticking to the new shows for examples.

Again, its not that easy to go through a suit change, tell the guy to stand in a spot. It takes time and effort to do it, and it has to be sequential to the last shot. Did you ever watch the making of the Kabuto movie? It took Yuuki Sato (Kagami) nearly 10 cuts to properly "henshin" for his transformation sequence, which took MORE than 30 minutes. Get your facts straight again.

I know it is not easy. I said it is probably more difficult to do so than putting on make up. The movie is a bad example, it spends a different budget than the series. The Henshin in the movie had the camera panning which of course makes the shot more difficult. In the show they just stood there.

Den O hasn't even reached the half way point.
If you can tell someone to not criticize or analyze the show because its hasn't even finished means that I can tell you, you can't praise the show because its not over and we don't know if they will screw up or not.

If we have to wait for the show to finish and talk what is the point of this thread.
 

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