Kamen Rider Black - Talkback!

[Basri RX]

True, got repetitive. Same formula in each and every episode in the second half. They just seemed to push the battle for the Kingstone later and later. In fact, I'm quite dissapointed with the fact that there were so little Black Sun/Shadow Moon in action.

The only good long ones, if I remembered correctly, were the one where Black died and that 50/51 where Moon took control of the bike.

They could have make Shadow Moon like Silver.
At least that badass can fight with the Bioman team.

 

[Forever Knight]

Oh, and Birugenia IS cooler than Shadow Moon. Shadow Moon's all talk, no action. There couldn't be action, look at that tin-can suit of his!

Well the point of the ALL TALK was to prepare everything for the big final battle between both Black and Shadow Moon. It made it that much more special that in the finale they finally met in battle.

I recall you saying at one point and time that you dislike it when a villian comes down to Earth, fights the hero, and then retreats for no reason. We'll we would have seen all that crap had Moon and Black fought sooner. The entire point was to build up the big battle and that is what they did and that is why the Black finale was great.

 

[Igadevil]

They just seemed to push the battle for the Kingstone later and later.

Haha, even the Creation King would agree with you on that. I love how he keeps telepathically telling them to hurry up already during the last few episodes. :laugh:

It's interesting that so many people like Birugenia...I will say this, he makes things more amusing when he's around, because he doesn't get along with anyone else and constantly butts into the action. Sort of like Apollo Geist in Kamen Rider X, who is still the king badass in my book. I always figured Shadow Moon was more popular because he's the other Century King, he's Nobuhiko, he's an evil Rider, or just all of the above.

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

I always figured Shadow Moon was more popular because he's the other Century King, he's Nobuhiko, he's an evil Rider, or just all of the above.

That's it, really. The entire lame (IMO) fascination with villains who just happen to share an outfit/powers with the heroes. This is what made people like those Ryuki asshats.

I liked Birugenia being a one-time contender for Century King -- if they had kept him around, there could have probably been some neater butting of heads with him and Shadow Moon, while he stayed on outside of Gorgom, and it would probably have helped Black shake things up a little in that second half. Hell, I'd even settle for Birugenia sending his own kaijin to go after Shadow Moon to wipe him out, so we'd have mini-Shadow Moon battle episodes.

If they wanted to hold off on Black's fight with him, they needed to do something more. But, again, the Nobuhiko actor not being used really, really hurt them. I'm sure we would have had some pretty cool dramatic scenes with Nobuhiko and his sister, girlfriend and Kotaro -- they just really needed to recast the part. Shadow Moon's voice actor, Masaki Terasoma, would have been pretty good, he's a well-trained stage actor (going off track here, I love those two episodes of Agito with him). Just think of the idea of Shadow Moon unhenshining...

Another thing I don't like about Black's second half -- they play "Blackhole Message" just too damn much! And that the Gorgom trio's "upgrades" made them look more like monsters of the week.

 

[REDDO POGIRENJAA!!!]

One of the original parts of KRB is that Shadowmoon never really is retributed in that series. He becomes totally evil. He even tries to kill Kotaro even when he's obviously incapacitated. Unlike everything, when the evil bro or friend or loved one is retributed, Shadowmoon stays evil until he dies. (Of course, he gets resurrected in RX, but RX just ruins the story of KRB.) I think that plot twist separates KRB from the rest. No one will disagree that KRB is one of the best tokusatsu, if not THE best, tokusatsu ever to be created. Until he's remade (I hope), "RAIDAA KIIIIIIICK!!!"

 

[Basri RX]

Apart from Black's, what other Toku songs have Toshiya Igarashi performed? I've never seen his name in other Toku at all.

 

[Igadevil]

Speaking of BLACK (well, RX), did Crisis have a particular logo? Gorgom's was that snake thingy they always showed in the the "Gorgom's future world" drawings, but I've never been able to figure out the Crisis Empire's.

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

Speaking of BLACK (well, RX), did Crisis have a particular logo?

They did, in fact. Here it is:

 

[Basri RX]

lol. Looks more like a stinkin poo Empire to me. :laugh:

 

[Forever Knight]

LMAO! that is f'n halarious.