If every rider got an ultimate form....

[Toku Prime]

Anyway I personally would wanna combine Climax and Liner form, there are certain ideas I like from both but Climax form (to me) looks like more of a final upgrade than Liner form.

I'm agreed with you on this one. Climax Form is the combination of everyone's (including Ryotaro's) power. Liner Form is ultimately still just Ryotaro, and always seemed to me to be weaker than Climax. By all means recognise the character's growth by giving him his own form beyond the standard PlatForm, but thematically Climax Form makes more sense as the final form. Not to mention it was the one that got the beyond-ultra upgrade in a later film.

OOO needed a more abstract final form in my opinion. With his gimmick the way it was I think A. All of the medals should have been able to work in any combo and that B. To just say one combo is the strongest in every way is boring. I think the strongest part of the OOO concept was the mixing and matching, eventually he never really had to cuz he had tajador and putotyra. I think it would've been fun for Eiji (NOTE: I realize this doesn't fit with the plot but just go with me for a sec) to somehow purify the medals and absorb one of each into himself and then be able to do instant full combo changes. Need to get at a yummy thats high up? fast as snapping his fingers he's tajador. Need a strength boost? Sagozo. Got an enemy hiding underwater? *snap* Shauta. This "final form" could look really plain (similar to Den-O's PlatForm), and call it like King Combo or something. That could actually be pretty funny, hype the hell out of this "ultimate power" and when he first gets it he's all bummed cuz its totally underwhelming, until he actually uses it and then he realizes its like mindblowingly powerful, i like that idea

I was also disappointed by PuToTyra, because it combined two themes: dinosaurs and mythical creatures, which both could have been used in different ways. TaJaDor never made sense as the mid-season upgrade form. Why is it stronger than LaToraTah or GataKiriBa when Ankh's original form is about as powerful as his fellow Greeed? It would have been far cooler to have had one less 'normal' full combo and had a dinosaur-themed form as that year's Fang/Joker and then a mythical creature-themed ultimate form.

I also think MegaMax misssed out on a chance to have some really unique forms for OOO and Fourze. Don't get me wrong, I quite like Rocket States, although I'm not a fan of Super TaToBa. But given that they outright gave them past rider themed medals and switches to use, they could have done something really unique with a 'Rider Combo' and 'Rider States'. Trying to blend their suit designs with more "retro" elements could have created something really different to the forms we're used to from their respective shows.

 

[LaZerwolfX]

I'm agreed with you on this one. Climax Form is the combination of everyone's (including Ryotaro's) power. Liner Form is ultimately still just Ryotaro, and always seemed to me to be weaker than Climax. By all means recognise the character's growth by giving him his own form beyond the standard PlatForm, but thematically Climax Form makes more sense as the final form. Not to mention it was the one that got the beyond-ultra upgrade in a later film.

I was also disappointed by PuToTyra, because it combined two themes: dinosaurs and mythical creatures, which both could have been used in different ways. TaJaDor never made sense as the mid-season upgrade form. Why is it stronger than LaToraTah or GataKiriBa when Ankh's original form is about as powerful as his fellow Greeed? It would have been far cooler to have had one less 'normal' full combo and had a dinosaur-themed form as that year's Fang/Joker and then a mythical creature-themed ultimate form.

I also think MegaMax misssed out on a chance to have some really unique forms for OOO and Fourze. Don't get me wrong, I quite like Rocket States, although I'm not a fan of Super TaToBa. But given that they outright gave them past rider themed medals and switches to use, they could have done something really unique with a 'Rider Combo' and 'Rider States'. Trying to blend their suit designs with more "retro" elements could have created something really different to the forms we're used to from their respective shows.

I completely agree, it could've also been a nice way to integrate the ganbaride legend switch weapons, I don't remember if they did anything like that for OOO but that would've at least worked for fourze

 

[NateRiver]

I just would've liked if Super TaToBa's head was more different.Tora and Batta got something added to them, but Taka was just Taka Head Brave with red below the neck.

 

[NeonZ]

I also think MegaMax misssed out on a chance to have some really unique forms for OOO and Fourze.

I think it's mostly a budget issue. It's pretty clear that a repaint and a partial form change are cheaper than completely new suits, which is what would be necessary if they had gotten past Rider themed forms.

Aside from that, in Ganbaride, the Switches just gave new weapons to Fourze, never forms, so there'd be that compatibility issue - and the OOO Rider medals just summoned Riders (hey, like in the movie!) or gave stat boosts.

 

[HenshinSlayer]

Meteor should go for another extra form and not just his meteor & storm forms.

Maybe ice with nunchucks. Even an extra module that'll let him use other planets.

 

[NateRiver]

Meteor should go for another extra form and not just his meteor & storm forms.

By Hugohugo on Deviant Art.

Even an extra module that'll let him use other planets.

By Tracker Zero Deviant Art.

 

[ClimaxHeroDen-O]

I'm gonna say right here, right now, that I think that NOTHING is wrong with Meteor Storm and that it shouldn't be changed, so nuts to all the haters

though as for this thread, I do think that Zeronos Zero Form should've had his own equivalent to the KingLiner and had his design be a combination of that and ZeroLiner Drill like Liner Form was a mix of DenLiner Gouka and the KingLiner, or at least given him a red ZeroLiner Drill with a cannon instead of a drill

I also would've liked a power-up for Saga and a proper final form for Birth instead of just piling on all his CLAWs weapons, and power-ups for Kaixa and Ibuki so DiEnd Complete Form could've been secondary rider powered

 

[HenshinSlayer]

Kabuto shouldn't be the only one to use the hyper zecter, ya know.

If anyone should use the hyper zecter, it should be shared to any rider, the zecter asks for Kabuto to be given to if needed.

Like... if Drake fought the Fiddler crab worm, the hyper zecter would be given to Daisuke to be hyper drake.

Hyper Sasword, if Kabuto tries to fight the Scorpio worm/Tsurugi, Kabuto would just find another way instead of killing him himself. He'd give the hyper zecter to Tsurugi to commit suicide as both the worm and hyper sasword.

 

[Toku Prime]

I think it's mostly a budget issue. It's pretty clear that a repaint and a partial form change are cheaper than completely new suits, which is what would be necessary if they had gotten past Rider themed forms.

Aside from that, in Ganbaride, the Switches just gave new weapons to Fourze, never forms, so there'd be that compatibility issue - and the OOO Rider medals just summoned Riders (hey, like in the movie!) or gave stat boosts.

I don't know much about what they do in the ganbaride machine, so it wasn't really on my mind. But there was nothing stopping them making a "movie edition pack" or something and changing the ganbaride software to match the form change during a normal update.

I wasn't thinking anything too radical for Fourze. The Riderman switch goes in his right hand slot and gives him the rope arm attachment (which they already have on the set), and the X switch goes in his left arm and gives him a black glove and the ridol appears in his hand (also already on set). Ichigo and Nigo are the right and left feet switches, and they turn the white parts of his suit the same green colour as on their chests, the orange parts turn red and "spill" out to become a scarf, give him more normal boots (one silver for Ichigo, one red for Nigo), and the black part of his face goes mostly silver, except for some retro rider 'tearmarks' under his eyes.

I will grant you I was thinking a bit more different for OOO. Helmet like a stylised version of Amazon's head, bulky red shoulder pads for a Stronger torso medal, and the V3 legs medal sends his leg armour all green and gives him red boots.

 

[rangergod]

If Decade was still airing, they would've gave all Showa riders upgrades and new suits.

Why are you obsessed of giving riders upgrades when they really don't need it. The Showa riders are badass by themselves.