Gundam Double Zeta: Talk UP

I'm starting at the end of a three-part trilogy, but Gundam bored me to tears and I finished Zeta after I left here.

However, I'll be talking about Zeta in comparison to this series whenever I add on to this. I get the feeling, what with all the Code Geass fans, I might be talking to myself a lot, but I'd really love it if that didn't happen. Despite Double Zeta's supposed flaws, its an excellent anime, and is an important part of mecha history.

The opening, Anime Ja Nai, was really stupid to me at first. Likely because I didn't expect "Its not Anime!" yelled at me when I started watching this series. But when you see the translation of the lyrics, you really get it. There's a bit in there that's something to the effect of, "You adults say that we watch too much television--but I never, ever tell a lie." I read this interview of Tomino once, a few months back, that basically summed up the theme of UC Gundam: The Adults are evil.

However, that's more a metatextual theme. The primary theme that seems to be carried through Tomino's trilogy is the necessity of humans "leaving the nest" and carrying on to our true Following Stage, becoming true spacenoids. Hence the line, "Through the glasses known as common sense, you Earthlings forgot your dreams." Ties both themes pretty well--this song fits the overall Gundam series great.

Anyway. Episode one: I wonder who's idea it was? Tomino's? Network? Sponsors? Either way, this is the difference between continous series like Naruto or DBZ and ones that exist in a single universe but have closely related, different series. Our first episode is devoted entirely to summarizing the events of the past two sagas and the heroes involved in them, Amuro Ray and Kamille Bidan.

Heh, knowing what I was getting into, I expected this to be a lighter affair than Zeta but wow. Judau is SO different from Kamille. Granted, Kamille had a lot more reason to be all depressed, given
both his parents were dead before we got past episode 5
, while Judau has long gotten over all his losses and is just trying to eke out a living on the colonies.

The lighter tone is probably a result of the writer's desire to shake things up after the end of Zeta, given that at the end of the last series
[HIDE]the majority of the cast is all dead, and the main character is pretty much mind-screwed into childhood again and eventually catatonia[/HIDE]. It makes sense that the strapped-for-cash heroes would recruit the only people available to them--shockingly competent kids (which is nothing new given Kamille, Amuro, White Base, and on....)--which is basically free labor until you can change things. And given this is pre-Evangelion, the kids are light-hearted instead of depressed.

What's really interesting is to watch Judau's skills develop. His first win in the Zeta (which is impressive from the name alone now, much like the first Gundam) is primarily through accident and luck, since he doesn't even learn to close the cockpit until episode four or so. But there's a steady growth that eventually leads to him gaining a win by 5, and his first kills occur in 9. (Shockingly, since by this point you expect a bigger deal to be made of it.)

Even the villain's amusing (for now). This really honorable (kinda) guy who obediently follows Haman Karn's every word, and somehow the flashbacks are all these noble, inspiring pieces of wisdom; even though we know she really isn't like that.

I'm a fifth through the show right now with ten episodes, and I'm really eager to finish it. Who else has watched this?
 
I tried watching this a couple of years back, but the first half of the series was so bad i couldn't finish it.

I heard Tomino takes over writing the second half to set up Char's Counterattack, so it gets pretty good and serious near the end.
 
I tried watching this a couple of years back, but the first half of the series was so bad i couldn't finish it.

I heard Tomino takes over writing the second half to set up Char's Counterattack, so it gets pretty good and serious near the end.

Okay, see there's the problem: Good Does Not Equal Serious. I'm on episode 11 and already the series is head and shoulders above the popular otakubait (someone used this the other day...I like it) Real Robot franchise of the 00's, Code Geass.

Its not bad, its just a tonal shift from Zeta Gundam, which (methinks, eighth grade is a long time ago) had a tonal shift of its own from Mobile Suit Gundam, though admittedly that one isn't as strong.

One thing I really like about this series is Judau immediately sets the relationship between him and the crew of the Argama up differently than Kamille's was. Aware of just how much they need him, initially he doesn't even fight for them unless they offer him something.

The first time he put THAT out there, I thought I was back with the Zeta Slap Cast when Fa tried to smack him, and he immediately stopped her and nearly punched her! I'm never for domestic violence, but I REALLY hated Zeta for the fact that there were three useful characters: Quattro, Bright, and Kamille. Everyone else was pretty worthless, and nearly ALL of them smacked Kamille around at some point. Thankfully Judau rejects this treatment, and hopefully he continues to through Tomino's depressed writing
 
I found both halves of ZZ incredibly stupid, but in different ways. ZZ gets so serious so abruptly in its second half that the tone-shift is just ludicrous. It was nice to see Judau's stupid sister die, though, I did hate her.

ZZ seems to be a show almost totally disowned by Sunrise and the Gundam creators. Tomino has refused to remake it and changed the ending of the Zeta movies such that the events of ZZ are completely impossible.

Incidentally, my favorite stupid moment in ZZ is probably the Dublin colony drop, where the colony is depicted as stabbing directly into the ground like a a giant lawn dart.

A giant lawn dart!

I'm pretty sure this happens in the so-called serious half of the show, too!
 

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