Den-O, dead hero-imagin question (spoilers)

[Astray]

I just had a weird thought, now I haven't seen the movie, but I'm assuming Seig doesn't die in it, because.. I've not heard and I would think I have but..

Ryoutarou forgot about all the Imagins and they started to fade away, so should that not apply to Seig as well? Shouldn't he now be dead and turned to dust because Ryoutarou didn't care enough to include Wing form into his little cell phone??

 

[Filadelfo]

I haven't seen the movie either but I think there's an explanation for that one.
Sieg could save himself because his contract's unique circumstances, he possessed a pregnant woman, who gave birth to a child to whom Sieg transferred; Sieg started fading away because the infant's memories were fading as well as he was about to become self conscious. The problem was solved when Sieg traveled back to the day he closed the contract with his first contractor, the child's mother.

 

[Undrave]

Basically, Seig is now a free agent, not bound by any contracts.

 

[DeathWished]

Basically, Seig is now a free agent, not bound by any contracts.

oh Sieg is one lucky ass imagin!!!!:buttrock:

 

[Wraithstrike]

Sieg has this to say:
Those such as myself are above petty concerns such as dissolution and memory. I am as free a zephyr on the wind. Luck is reserved for those like me.

Why is this peasant allowed to speak of my posterior in such a way? YOUR HEAD IS TOO HIGH!

 

[JFC]

Even though Sieg fights with Ryoutarou in the movie as well as in the series, he never formed a connection/contract with him. Plus, he came from 2007, and once an Imagin flies in the past (and stays there), he's no longer in danger of "fading away". The reason why Ura-tachi started to fade away was because they came back to the present (2007). If they had stayed in the past they would have been fine as well.

 

[xin]

no more time travelling pls in 2008 rider hehe ..all this pass present and future ..confused

 

[Astray]

Even though Sieg fights with Ryoutarou in the movie as well as in the series, he never formed a connection/contract with him. Plus, he came from 2007, and once an Imagin flies in the past (and stays there), he's no longer in danger of "fading away". The reason why Ura-tachi started to fade away was because they came back to the present (2007). If they had stayed in the past they would have been fine as well.

The owner implied other wise. It was said that if you can't remember them then their existance stops being. Hence why Momo was fine but not the others. It's clearly memory based not where you go based.

 

[Chad Hyou]

Even though Sieg fights with Ryoutarou in the movie as well as in the series, he never formed a connection/contract with him. Plus, he came from 2007, and once an Imagin flies in the past (and stays there), he's no longer in danger of "fading away". The reason why Ura-tachi started to fade away was because they came back to the present (2007). If they had stayed in the past they would have been fine as well.

Forgive my ignorance, but what does saying "Ura-tachi" mean? My guess would be it's like saying "Urataros and the others", but then that doesn't seem to match up to Kintaros' "why not ask Yuuto-tachi?".

 

[JFC]

The owner implied other wise. It was said that if you can't remember them then their existance stops being. Hence why Momo was fine but not the others. It's clearly memory based not where you go based.

Yes it is memory based, but remember that during the series, when Seig was fading away, the owner ALSO said that he'd be alright/safe once he flew into the past and that he'd never again have to worry about fading away. So it doesn't matter anymore if Ryoutarou remembers fighting with Seig or not, since he was never in any danger of fading away.

The only other possibility is that Ryoutarou DOES remember fighting with Seig, and that he's still alive in the past. But since Seig remained in the past, we have no way of knowing (at the moment) whether he actually faded away or not. For all we know, Ryoutarou DID forget fighting with Seig and Seig DID fade away in the past and the series just hasn't touched on it (if that's the case, we'll probably never know).

Forgive my ignorance, but what does saying "Ura-tachi" mean? My guess would be it's like saying "Urataros and the others"

Exactly right.

but then that doesn't seem to match up to Kintaros' "why not ask Yuuto-tachi?".

Yuuto-tachi would likely be referring Yuuto and Deneb.