All-Star Batman Is Back!

mattcomics said:

Franks superhero work is ridiculously overated. Just alot of cheap grimschlock and every heroic character is turned into a total tool. I wish to God he would quit attempting anything with Superman since he seems to be incapable of grasping even the slightest clue about who that character is. Don't give me the tired old line about how we have Frank Miller to thank for bringing Batman back to his roots. O'Neil and Adams did that long before him and kept the characters nobility in the process. All Frank did was make him a miserable, unsympathetic dumbass. Is there any female in ASSBAR who doesn't act like a crazy warrior hooker?

Jim Lee's art is good at least considering the cynical garbage of a script he's drawing. Though Wonder Womans headband coming down to her nose is awful and I'm shocked Frank didn't tell the colorist to make those silly stilletto heels clear just to complete his Wonder Ho take on her.

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I do agree with pretty much all this. I love Jim Lee's art, but that Wonder Woman looks crap.

Wow, If Skyknight didn't lose all credibility with the TF thread he has now, all star Batman/Robin is crap. massive delays, and over-abundance of exposition boxes, 2-Dimensional characetrs and I swear If I have to hear "Godamn Batman" one more time I'll but every copy of the book to burn it. Miller is over-rated and over-exposed. every time DC gives him some high-profile project he screws it up. this book is Garbage go read All-star Superman or Paul Dini's issues of Detective Comics.

I agree with mattcomics and Megaranger here. Cause I've seen Fank Miller's Batman Year One script... that was not how Batman should be PERIOD. In fact that wasn't batman at all, that was just some stupid, pyscho dressing up as Batman and giving him a bad name. That was no Batman at all.

He can't do any superhero justice from what I'm seeing so he should stay away from them. If it's NOT BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT.

I just read #5 and I tend to agree. Portraying Batman as a brutal, sadistic nutcase just doesn't work. Neither does making Diana a man hating uber bitch.

Although I do like the high heels.:sweat:

Skyknight said:

There as real as the universe demands of the characters,, and who the hell cares if it's mostly negative? It has an uplifting message that reddems the characters, you can't get there without drama. If anything were positive, you'd have the Silver Age material back with countless imaginary stories every five months to make up for the lack of negativity

Where are you from? The 1950's? Lighten the hell up, it's just a fucking comic.

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Okay aside from the fact that doing imaginary stories back then had nothing to do with meeting some sort of negativity quota that was lacking, why is it assumed that if someone objects to overkill darkness and cheap shock in superhero comics that they just want the Silver Age back? Why does it have to be one of two extremes? Just because someone doesn't want Batman written as a nihilistic nutjob doesn't have to mean they want Bat-Mite back in canon.

As for lightening the hell up because it's just a comicbook, maybe somebody should tell that to Marvel and DC.

Mega Ranger said:

Wow, If Skyknight didn't lose all credibility with the TF thread he has now, all star Batman/Robin is crap. massive delays, and over-abundance of exposition boxes, 2-Dimensional characetrs and I swear If I have to hear "Godamn Batman" one more time I'll but every copy of the book to burn it. Miller is over-rated and over-exposed. every time DC gives him some high-profile project he screws it up. this book is Garbage go read All-star Superman or Paul Dini's issues of Detective Comics.

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Kamen Rider Oni said:

I agree with mattcomics and Megaranger here. Cause I've seen Fank Miller's Batman Year One script... that was not how Batman should be PERIOD. In fact that wasn't batman at all, that was just some stupid, pyscho dressing up as Batman and giving him a bad name. That was no Batman at all.

He can't do any superhero justice from what I'm seeing so he should stay away from them. If it's NOT BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT.

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I like Frank Miller, though. I do agree somewhat about his DC (and even Marvel) superhero work, but I think he fares way better with his own original material (namely Sin City and 300).

ryuuseipro said:

I like Frank Miller, though. I do agree somewhat about his DC (and even Marvel) superhero work, but I think he fares way better with his own original material (namely Sin City and 300).

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well I didn't say he should stop doing his own material, I'm just saying he should not touch the Marvel or DC heroes.

Mega Ranger said:

Wow, If Skyknight didn't lose all credibility with the TF thread he has now

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Awww, poor little mite got slapped hard when it came to who really knows more about G1 and he's taking wittle pot shots at me for enjoying things he does'nt and enjoying a comic in equal constrast to far better written titles.

Once again, a typical performance:laugh: :laugh:

**** what anyone thinks. You blindly follow what's "in" and what's "out" like rampant flocks, "Hate Miller this", "Love Bay that", and you can't deal when people say anything different. Serious buisness for serious gentlemen indeed.

Your credibility and class are practically non-existent, even Keith backed up my right to express anything, why the **** should I bend over Brokeback because someone with power wants to feel big?

THIS is why I argue with people like I do in the TF thread Faiz,THIS is why you get me calling people "blindly loyal", people like THIS can't deal with anyone saying something is overrated nor underrated. THESE are people who need to take a good cold look at their faces in the mirror and struggle to figure out the words "evaluation" and respond accordingly.

There's no equality on this board, if you're not part of the "In" crowd, you can't have a respectable conversation with anyone, good job the "in" crowd have about as much tangibility as dentures and are figures of eternal fun.