Why is there only one main Tokusatsu fansub group?

[Tom Constantine]

I have episode 50 but I need the first few episodes XD

I'll whack every episode up on megaupload as soon as I get them.

$170 for:
Every single episode subtitled, digitally remastered.
71 character profiles
Exclusive Interview with Miyauchi Hiroshi ("Kazami Shiro")
Behind-the-Scenes Episode Factoids
6 Kamen Rider V3 Karaoke Music Videos
Kamen Rider V3 Trivia Quiz
"Who Was That Masked Bug-Man?" Essay
"Destron: The Army with Roots in Hell" Essay

That's great, but no way on Earth am I paying $170 for a DVD set. That's a stupid price.

 

[HaiTien78]

I'll whack every episode up on megaupload as soon as I get them.

That would be appreciated very much :anime:

That's great, but no way on Earth am I paying $170 for a DVD set. That's a stupid price.

ALOT Cheaper compared to other japanese toku box sets (like the $800 Megaranger box set mentioned earlier) >.> And this one comes with alot more features too <.<. It's probably cheaper in Hawaii, because it's sold in stores over there.

I'm definately getting V3 box set for persian new year though :thumbs: One of the best KR series in my opinion.

 

[Yellow Stranger]

Ok if The series is frozen or paused at ep 20 it Would be retarded for a new fansubber to start at the beginning. hence starting where it left off makes sense.

It's not retard at all actually, when you sub a series you should sub the WHOLE SERIES, not just pick up where another group left of, unless, in a rare instance, you are being asked to continue for a group/your old group died and you started a new one (That is I assume they are rare.) Just because TV-Nihon stopped at some point does NOT give you license to start up at that point and say "Just watch there work for the earlier episodes."

You have to realize that people will start watching a show at random points, sometimes in the freaking middle of when a show airs. If you picked up where another sub group left off, then you will most likely have one confused watcher going "Where the hell are all the early episodes?"

And yes while the meaning being the words will be the same from sub group to sub group, the important difference is in how the Translator words things. For Example, Lady Mercury probably won't translate the line the same way Takenoko would. To jump into something mid-series expecting everyone to see a previous sub groups translation is going to make for some pretty awkward adjustment period. Hell I saw comparison shots for one anime fansubs, and the difference between three groups and how they word/translates things are a lot more noticeable than you would normally think.

 

[ShadowRider]

The V3 set costs so much due to the fact that it's an extremely limited release. The set might have cost less if it was a wide release like domestically produced TV shows (and of those I can think of some dvd sets with worse pricing), but the fact is with no nation wide interest in these types of shows such a release is not feasible for a small company like JN Productions (keeping in mind that this limited release has been available for over a year now and has yet to sell out).

And when you consider the cost of the R2 set, coupled with the fact that the R1 set not only has correct English subtitles but so many extras, it's well worth the price. Not to mention that it is an actual domestic release of a Tokusatsu show - further releases of actual shows (not just movies) will not be possible without the support of the little stuff already available.

 

[RyoShin]

Ok while there are some things in japanese that are translated and have ahve multiple meaning there are more thing like ore sanjou that can only be translated one way.

ANd yes it is retarded
to start at 1-20 when it would be better to start at 21 then if the subber choses to do the others.. it is done MANY times with animes. Then the primary fansubber drops a series when it is licensed or the fansub group goes on hiatus or is taking long on subbing. they take over from where they left off. its been done with series like Naruto, bleach, onepiece and such. IT part of fansubbing and something you may as well get used to even if you dont agree.

Usually a fansub group will put on there site or the first ep that the previous eps were done by so and so and to get them from them and such. if not then GOOGLE there are plenty of torrent search engines and Forums to find out info.

Just because TV-Nihon stopped at some point does NOT give you license to start up at that point and say "Just watch there work for the earlier episodes."

who are you to say what a group can and cant do or where they can start off a series. IF TvN stops subbing Deno at like ep 20 or something for what ever reason id rather someone pick it up from where it was left off.

And TvN Does not own the license to the Toku they sub, they are fansubbers who do it cause they want to and enjoy doing it like all other fansubbers.

If a group decide they want to do geki they can start where ever the **** they choose and if they want do the earlier eps.

 

[HaiTien78]

If a group decide they want to do geki they can start where ever the **** they choose and if they want do the earlier eps.

I actually was subbing Geki during that 2 or 3 week hiatus before they released Boukenger last task .__.;;, I was half way done with ep 1 until TVN released ep 1 and 2, so I was like aww screw it, I'll just let TVN do the subbing, since they do a better job at it anyway :sweat: But if TVN goes on another 2 or 3 week hiatus, I might just pick up Geki for that one time only until TVN gets back up :thumbs: so the fans can get the episodes they want without waiting around a month possibly.

 

[Ladymercury]

Just because TV-Nihon stopped at some point does NOT give you license to start up at that point and say "Just watch there work for the earlier episodes."

I disagree. When Ouran High School Host Club was licensed by Viz, the group who was scanlating it dropped it. Another group picked up but dropped it as well due to lack of resources.

So me and my friend came in and started doing the current chapters since we subscribed to LaLa and got the current issues.

We had no problems with fans complaining about the differences in translations nor did we have people complaining about where was the others (except for like two and English wasn't their first language). They were just glad that current chapters of Ouran was being scanlated. We also put down on our website that we were not doing previous volumes because they were already translated and licensed. The only reason we dropped Ouran was because there was two of us and I was stuck doing the majority of the work (since I had the LaLa issues, I was stuck scanning them, translating, zipping, and distro'd)

The majority rules over the minority.

 

[RyoShin]

I actually was subbing Geki during that 2 or 3 week hiatus before they released Boukenger last task .__.;;, I was half way done with ep 1 until TVN released ep 1 and 2, so I was like aww screw it, I'll just let TVN do the subbing, since they do a better job at it anyway :sweat: But if TVN goes on another 2 or 3 week hiatus, I might just pick up Geki for that one time only until TVN gets back up :thumbs: so the fans can get the episodes they want without waiting around a month possibly.

And you can do that if you want. hell if your willing to put in the hard work to sub the series then no one should give you **** for it. WHo cares if TvN is doing the series there is plenty of toku viewers for there to be a lot more toku subbers.

 

[HaiTien78]

And you can do that if you want. hell if your willing to put in the hard work to sub the series then no one should give you **** for it. WHo cares if TvN is doing the series there is plenty of toku viewers for there to be a lot more toku subbers.

Well the main reason why I just screwed what I was doing because I don't want to waste my time and effort subbing a series while TVN is subbing it already and doing a better job :sweat:

 

[Yellow Stranger]

It's called "Professionalism". Just because it's being done by Fans, doesn't mean you can't act like children about every aspect of a release. Am I personal my personal views on you? Perhaps, but this is coming from someone who wants to get into fansubbing. I'd rather do respectable work, then go all wily-nilly with everything because "You don't own the license, and you're going to slow."

I want to sub because through my experiments with subbing, I found it to be an enjoyable experience and there are a couple of Tokusastu that I just want to sub.

And for the continuation debate, When different groups pick up where another left off, like say Naruto, That's the only reasonable way I see the continuation working, for asking a group to go back to square one, especially when it's licensed to sub the whole series is Insane. But Tokusastu works different than Anime because well, A series only last from 26/48-52 Episodes at the most now a days, and only runs for a year. Plus there is a great deal of Tokusastu that has been finished that hasn't even been subbed. In those case I don't see it as unreasonable to start from scratch at episode one. (Especially those shorter episode number shows like Lion Maru G and Garo).

EDIT: Okay in hindsight the Continuation thing is kinda silly, and more of a personal taste than a truth. Past efforts with Boukenger kinda made me frown apon it.