[Video Game] Super Climax Heroes (All New Info in First Post)

[EmblemLord]

Since I have found out you can combo into climax time, a whole new world has been open to me.

Chars below high tier arent worth a damn and even those chars might be too weak. This game is so broken lolol. Faiz is nuts. Super Speed Style he has climax time set ups that start in normal form, go into Axel form, then he gets climax time and ends with his finale. Its crazy. Eternal I think is the only Assualt style character that can combo into Climax time then his Finale because he has an assault style combo that causes crumple stun.

King form blade has several climax time 100% combos.

Kaixa only has them vs chars with low life but he has one of the easiest loops in the game and other advantages so its not an issue for him.

If a char cant combo into finale in this game then they are worthless.

I'm gonna experiment with Ibuki next. I think he might have some climax time set-ups.

 

[MaX Kazuki]

try scissors, even the guys who made this game and JP magazines starts to make fun of him in SCH after what the guy went through in previous CH games

Scissors :laugh::laugh::laugh:
He's certainly the weakest Rider in the game

EmblemLord:
I kinda like your division of tier list but gotta disagree with some of them. Kuuga Ultimate clearly in God Tier (GT), and also Decade Complete, Blade King, and Kabuto Hyper. These four had been monster in the game since Climax Heroes OOO. Even though you say they need three bar to use (full bar before this game), they can build meter so fast fast that meter deficit is not a problem.

Here's my tier list, according to your tier division.

Kamen Rider Super Climax Heroes Tier List
This is based on my opinion after using all characters and their form changes in this game. Note that this tier list is for single mode (except Wizard Hurricane Dragon), which mean when using the specific Rider in a tag team, the experience may differ (Because the lack of Rider Art button and Assault mode, as example, can change the game completely).
-the list is arranged according to the Kamen Rider series


Godlike
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Kuuga Ultimate
Faiz Axel
Faiz Blaster
Kaixa
Blade King
Leangle
Kabuto
Kabuto Hyper
Sasword
Drake
KickHopper
Den-O Super Climax
Zeronos Altair
Saga
Decade Complete
W CycloneMetal
Accel Trial
Eternal
OOO LaToraTah
OOO PuToTyra
Birth Gotou
Meteor
Wizard Hurricane Dragon[/hide]

Top
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V3
Biorider
Shadowmoon
Agito (with Machine Tornador)
Faiz (plus Autovajin)
Delta
Blade
Todoroki
Zanki
TheBee Yaguruma
TheBee Kageyama
PunchHopper
Kiva Emperor
W CycloneJoker
W CycloneTrigger
W FangJoker
W CJ Xtreme
OOO BuraKaWani
Fourze Base (plus Astro Switches change)
Fourze Cosmic
Fourze Meteor Fusion
Meteor Storm
Wizard Water
Wizard (magic rings usage)
Wizard Flame Dragon[/hide]

High
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Kuuga Dragon
Kuuga (with Gouram)
Gills
Knight Survive
Tiger
Gai
Femme
Ryuga
Odin
Blade Jack
Garren
Chalice
Ibuki
Dark Kabuto
Den-O Rod
Neg Den-O
Zeronos Zero
Kiva (with Castle Doran)
Ixa Burst
Decade
W LunaTrigger
Accel Skull
OOO TaToBa
OOO GataKiriBa
OOO TaJaDor
Birth Date
Fourze Elek
Fourze Magnet
Wizard Hurricane[/hide]

Mid
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Ichigo
Black RX
Kuuga Mighty
Kuuga Pegasus
Kuuga Titan
Agito Ground
Agito Trinity
Agito Shining
Ryuki (with Advent)
Ryuki Survive
Ouja
Hibiki Oni
Hibiki Kurenai
Hibiki Soukou/Armed
Den-O Sword (plus Den-Liner)
Den-O Gun
Zeronos Vega
New Den-O
Ixa Save
Fourze Fire
Wizard Flame[/hide]

Low
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G3-X
Knight
Imperer
Raia
Verde
Gatack
Den-O Ax
Kiva
W LunaJoker
W LunaMetal
W HeatJoker
W HeatMetal
Joker
OOO SaGoZou
Wizard Land[/hide]

Bottom
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Nigo
Amazon
Black
Roborider
Scissors
Zolda
DiEnd
W HeatTrigger
OOO ShaUTa[/hide]

 

[Thunder025]

Watching Wizard, I was thinking about the next game. Here is my predictions.

- Wizard will definitely get 4 more Power Up Gauges. One for each Style >> Dragon. And one for the final form.

- The Style-to-Dragon gauges will probably share the same finisher: Wizard All Dragon.

- Wizard will be able to Tag with himself in the Dragons. (just like Den-O).

- Beast will probably be a Power Up Gauge. His Mantles will be turned into simple attacks (just like Meteor Galaxy attacks and Birth CLAW's).

That's all I can think off right now. Of course, if they don't change anything from SCH.

I hope they add a real 4 player Co-op this time. That would be really neat.

 

[EmblemLord]

how is nega den o top tier? that is inaccurate. his options r poor. also u gotta remember ultimate kuuga is attached to his other forms. im not really grading them just by themselves but as a whole. faiz in his base form is still broken. kuuga not really. faiz vs kuuga who will win most of tge time. faiz cuz overall he is better while kuuga MUST be in Ultimate to be a true threat. also how is chalice so high?

 

[MaX Kazuki]

how is nega den o top tier? that is inaccurate. his options r poor. also u gotta remember ultimate kuuga is attached to his other forms. im not really grading them just by themselves but as a whole. faiz in his base form is still broken. kuuga not really. faiz vs kuuga who will win most of tge time. faiz cuz overall he is better while kuuga MUST be in Ultimate to be a true threat. also how is chalice so high?

Nega Den-O combos are very strong. And with the addition of run shooting, he's the only gunner Rider who can pressure opponent both ranged and melee.If only his gauge is white, it would had been perfect. Well, that's my opinion

And yes I'm grading them in each form because each one of them is unique. :thumbs:

Of course Faiz would have win most of the time, if it's a battle between base form, but when you count the point that Kuuga has versatility in green gauge and absolute power in Ultimate Form, anything can happen. Also, Kuuga can play pressure game by using Gouram (Orange gauge). Although, Faiz is my favorite Rider and I don't want him to lose any match

Yeah, Chalice cannot be that high. Hmmm I'm thinking of him as a High Tier Rider maybe?

Watching Wizard, I was thinking about the next game. Here is my predictions.

- Wizard will definitely get 4 more Power Up Gauges. One for each Style >> Dragon. And one for the final form.

- The Style-to-Dragon gauges will probably share the same finisher: Wizard All Dragon.

- Wizard will be able to Tag with himself in the Dragons. (just like Den-O).

- Beast will probably be a Power Up Gauge. His Mantles will be turned into simple attacks (just like Meteor Galaxy attacks and Birth CLAW's).

That's all I can think off right now. Of course, if they don't change anything from SCH.

I hope they add a real 4 player Co-op this time. That would be really neat.

-That's so many Power Up form for a Rider. Seriously, Wizard is spoiled in this game
-Agreed
-If this option is available, then OOO should also can tag with himself too (event of OOO Movie: Wonderful)
-Agreed with Beast

And did you mean 2 vs. 2 all human players? Since they already put out the beat 'em all mode
This would be neat. I would like try Arcade mode in tag team with my bros :thumbs:

 

[EmblemLord]

putting nega den o as godlike as saying he is a good as the others in god tier. is he as good as Drake who is the best keep away char in the game? Eternal can kill any char in the game with one combo just starting with 2 bars. how can nega den o compare to that kind of power? you know he cant. His moves r no where near eternals level or alot of the zect riders. most of the god tier can kill u in one combo or have loops. u r not god tier unless u r broken or have some crazy strategy. as for kuuga. he is amazing in ultimate. mighty form is bad. dragon has ok chains but is unsafe. pegasus is safe but does mediocre damage. he NEEDS ultimate to be awesome. put him vs a char that only uses meter for the win condition and he struggles. building meter is HARD when ur opponents outclass you

 

[MaX Kazuki]

putting nega den o as godlike as saying he is a good as the others in god tier. is he as good as Drake who is the best keep away char in the game? Eternal can kill any char in the game with one combo just starting with 2 bars. how can nega den o compare to that kind of power? you know he cant. His moves r no where near eternals level or alot of the zect riders. most of the god tier can kill u in one combo or have loops. u r not god tier unless u r broken or have some crazy strategy. as for kuuga. he is amazing in ultimate. mighty form is bad. dragon has ok chains but is unsafe. pegasus is safe but does mediocre damage. he NEEDS ultimate to be awesome. put him vs a char that only uses meter for the win condition and he struggles. building meter is HARD when ur opponents outclass you

Oh if that's what you mean by godlike, then Nega Den-O is just top tier then. But you should really notice he can do fast and damaging combo just using two bars, and I like the way he can now use both sword and gun. Maybe it's the preferred playing style that make me think he's a godlike tier -_-"

And that's why Kuuga Ultimate is the godlike tier. Players who use Kuuga should know that they need Ultimate Form to overwhelm their opponent. I as a player who like to pressure my opponent a lot clearly see that Kuuga should not be let to change into Ultimate Form, he's scary to fight with. And from what I can see, meter charging is pretty balanced now with all riders have the same charging quantity per second. Or it's not?

 

[EmblemLord]

His damage is good when you look at it hit for hit but his highest damage potential, his burst damage and his ability to end games is not there.

He is low tier maybe mid tier. Rider shooting is the worst rider movement type. Half a bar for a little shot that does poor damage? It's good for disrupting someones rythym not much else. Compare him to another striker character like Leangle. Leangle can poison you. He has an air reset that can lead to huge damage. He can combo into his Finale. He has two ways he can summon his striker. He has longer reach on his normals. He has a chain thats an auto cross up so you MUST block behind you or you will get hit. ALL his specials are much better then Nega Den-o.

Nega den o does not compare to this. No way. He cant even combo into his finale. Something that all God tiers on my list can do. The top tiers on my list can either combo into finale OR they have ways of netting huge damage like Kabuto and his custom combos when clocked up.

Hitting hard doesnt make you god tier. Its your options. Your ability to do insane things and take control of the fight easily. Nega den o does not do this. Heck his rushing slash special doesnt even have armor like Den o sword form does. He is not god tier. Heck he isnt even a good character. This game is full of monsters that can end games with just one combo or opening. What nega den o can do with 2 or bars, other chars in this game can do with just one.

I just found a ground loop with Saga that takes no bar and since Saga is a safe attacker that uses his range to win its not hard to get a guard break with him or set-up this loop.

As far as Kuuga goes the problem is that his other forms are weak and thus it holds back Ultimate Kuuga. I think both Meteor and faiz are god tier in power up style. Why? Because even in their base form they are crazy. Kuuga is not crazy at all in any of his forms. They all have flaws and problems. Mostly being not safe or lacking in damage. Mighty form has both those problems.

Put Kuuga vs a god tier he will have problems. No one is gonna let you just charge meter. You have to try to control the match but how can he do that effectively when his options arent as good? Ultimate Kuuga is a beast and has the easiest safest loop on the game. He can kill almost any character with this loop because he hits really hard. But you need meter to hit that level and before you DO hit that level you are stucking using one of his mediocre forms. This lowers his overall tier level.

For the sake of the entire style thats why he is top and not god on my list. Ultimate Kuuga IS god tier but his other forms are bad. They are low/mid tier which brings the overall style down. God + mid = top. Thats my logic. With meteor you get a god + god = god. See?

 

[MaX Kazuki]

I see. That does make sense.
Nega Den-O's rider shooting projectile is fairly good, can be compared to Skull's and Drake's. Two riders who actually have rider shooting and suck at it are diend and zolda.
And I agree, Nega Den-Liner sucks. However, it's not just about doing damage, it's also about strategy, Nega Den-O can play both melee and ranged effectively which in my opinion a really good combination.

And I already stated that I rate each Rider in each of their form because each form is unique. I don't want to rate a Rider, I specifically rate each form of a Rider and state the rating based on my experience using him.
Unless it is Scissors...You are 99% confirmed losing, Even against CPU opponent the match is hard as hell.

 

[Allio]

am I the only one who doesn't use Climax Time?