Reccomend a Kamen Rider series

[Xtreme RX]

I don't understand how that show aging, especially when the Showa era understood the balance between action and story far more than Heisei tends to. When I watch one episode of "Kamen Rider," I feel like I was entirely satisfied with action, excitement, and a great villain. Now, you need to watch 2 or 4 episodes before even beginning to get a feel of the show.

I get what you mean - the episodes feel like a full package for sure. But I find Kamen Rider dragging on too long (I mean for 98 episodes, I can see why) I was able to marathon the first 20 or so episodes but then they start to repeat plotlines. Sure something interesting happens every once and a while, but then we have the terrible child-actor focus episodes that kind of stagnate.

Also, the show did age because filmmaking has changed. The action in the first Rider (as awesome as it is) isn't for everyone. The way it is shot and paced could be boring to a lot of people who aren't used to older films and such. Hell, could be boring to people who are really into Hesei Rider.

Again, the first Rider is fun, but it's hard to get through with 98 episodes. Don't think it's a good starting point.

 

[themidnighter]

It is a monumental mistake to take the opinions of people in this fandom to heart to closely. People love and hate different things. Just because one person seems like or dislike what you do, is no reason not to watch something they dislike.

I've noticed. The critical skills of some in this fandom are... let's be polite and say, "first level."

That said, I'm still willing to listen to people who give rational reasons for their like and dislike, as Captain Shark and Extreme RX did. And given that Captain Shark is one of the only Heisei Rider fans I've come across who wasn't charmed by Double -- which I certainly wasn't -- I'm inclined to listen. :thumbs:

 

[Matrix]

By far Faiz is my favorite Kamen Rider series of all time. W was a great Rider series, very close to first on my favorite list, OOOs was a good show, go oldies and watch Black and Black RX, some of the best Rider series period.

So any of those would be great to look at

 

[themidnighter]

Now, you need to watch 2 or 4 episodes before even beginning to get a feel of the show.

This is true, but I find the multi-part structure (when used well) gives the story a bit more room to breathe, and lends itself to increased complexity. At its best, the structure fosters a more intense connection to the story.

When used poorly (i.e., when a two-parter only has enough story for one episode), it feels bloated and like the series is treading water. I feel like OOOs suffered from this problem a bit toward the middle of its run.

I'd love for Super Sentai to experiment with a structure like this for a series or two. For the sake of freshness, if nothing else.

 

[Khaiden]

I liked the comedy and the themes, plus I found the rider idea to be very cool.

I rest my case with OOO. Double might work for a slightly similar comedy.
I know you're asking for a series recommendation, but you can't wrong with the movies that follow Den-O, that is if you haven't watched them already.

If you like absolute insanity there comes Skyrider. And the second half of Super-1 (which IMO has villains that give the Taros a run for their money in comedy), though that one might be pushing it too far.

Also, the show did age because filmmaking has changed. The action in the first Rider (as awesome as it is) isn't for everyone. The way it is shot and paced could be boring to a lot of people who aren't used to older films and such. Hell, could be boring to people who are really into Hesei Rider.

Again, the first Rider is fun, but it's hard to get through with 98 episodes. Don't think it's a good starting point.

Filmmaking differences are definitely visible and anyone knowing the year it's from would fully know what to expect.
But damn, son. I really have to politely disagree about the action. It was incredibly fast-paced and hooking, at least after the first 13 episodes. One of the things the original series is known for, is the huge changes producer Hirayama Tohru (R.I.P.) introduced, one of them was a better emphasis on action and something that was filled with ass-kicking explosions and mooks flying everywhere.

You said it yourself, first Rider is fun.

The episode count is a fair enough reason not to start with this, same with Goranger.

This is true, but I find the multi-part structure (when used well) gives the story a bit more room to breathe, and lends itself to increased complexity. At its best, the structure fosters a more intense connection to the story.

When used poorly (i.e., when a two-parter only has enough story for one episode), it feels bloated and like the series is treading water. I feel like OOOs suffered from this problem a bit toward the middle of its run.

I once again point you in the direction of X-Rider and V3.

 

[Mr. Rhythmic]

This is true, but I find the multi-part structure (when used well) gives the story a bit more room to breathe, and lends itself to increased complexity. At its best, the structure fosters a more intense connection to the story.

"V3" actually had a lot of two parters, but what worked is that each episode, self contained, was amazing, and it didn't force to watch both parts to enjoy it. Heisei's thing is usually "Watch the whole thing and you'll get it, but we'll still make you feel like you're missing out on explanations."

 

[Khaiden]

"V3" actually had a lot of two parters, but what worked is that each episode, self contained, was amazing, and it didn't force to watch both parts to enjoy it. Heisei's thing is usually "Watch the whole thing and you'll get it, but we'll still make you feel like you're missing out on explanations."

Actually most of the first parts ended in a cliffhanger, that's a main reason why they were 2-parters in the first place.

 

[Xtreme RX]

But damn, son. I really have to politely disagree about the action. It was incredibly fast-paced and hooking, at least after the first 13 episodes. One of the things the original series is known for, is the huge changes producer Hirayama Tohru (R.I.P.) introduced, one of them was a better emphasis on action and something that was filled with ass-kicking explosions and mooks flying everywhere.

Oh yeah. It's awesome to see Chiba, Fujioka and Sasaki doing their own dangerous stunts, as well as the diverse locations they fight episode to episode. The best action scenes in my opinion were when Fujioka fights on top of a truck, the episode with the "bus tug-of-war" before a train hits it, and the battle on the gondola. Crazy stuff.

 

[Mr. Rhythmic]

Actually most of the first parts ended in a cliffhanger, that's a main reason why they were 2-parters in the first place.

I meant quality satisfaction, not story.