OT:Rap and MTV these days.

I can understand people's "distaste" for rap music; everyone has their own likings. However, its a much more ignorant statement to generalize the content of rap music to be infused with drugs/guns/girls. If you're going to say "rap music is crap" you should AT LEAST say mainstream rap is crap. Your quarrel is with mainstream hip hop, not the "whole" of rap music. There are plenty of intelligent, highbrow rappers that actually rhyme with significance.


I want people to really understand the difference because you'd be pissing 99% of rap fans off by saying " rap music sucks or rap is crap," whereas if you'd have said "mainstream rap sucks or is crap," then 99% of rap fans would agree with you.

I though i would have to come in here and have to defend rap but you did job prefectly.
 
Is it me, or aren't geeks and toku heads supposed to hate MTV and any other pop culture crap shown on American tv?
 
Hip-hop needs to die. What's with this country? It's like everyone's so enthused in the culture of death. Come on! That's the kind of stuff hip-hop and gangsta rap glorifies! They glorify the darkness of life all the way from shooting people, raping women, stealing, drinking, taking drugs, smoking marijuana, and disrespecting women. There's nothing glamorous about those things! It really casts the African American male in a bad and ignorant light these days when so many look up to these performers. What's sad is that most of the "artists" in this genre seem to perpetuate these cliches and lifestyles which and of itself is outright ridiculous. This culture does not help anything or anyone in the sense that most cultures should. It does however provide a layout of the behavior that shouldn't have any place in civil society. MTV is just perpetuating this sort of wrong behavior. Of course when aren't they perpetuating the vices of society? MTV provides a window into what's wrong with this country.
 
My buddy hit this right on the mark. The music industry in this country is so contrived and riddled with the same old tired stuff, and Rap as a whole just seems to embody it the most.
 
Hip-hop needs to die. What's with this country? It's like everyone's so enthused in the culture of death. Come on! That's the kind of stuff hip-hop and gangsta rap glorifies! They glorify the darkness of life all the way from shooting people, raping women, stealing, drinking, taking drugs, smoking marijuana, and disrespecting women. There's nothing glamorous about those things! It really casts the African American male in a bad and ignorant light these days when so many look up to these performers. What's sad is that most of the "artists" in this genre seem to perpetuate these cliches and lifestyles which and of itself is outright ridiculous. This culture does not help anything or anyone in the sense that most cultures should. It does however provide a layout of the behavior that shouldn't have any place in civil society. MTV is just perpetuating this sort of wrong behavior. Of course when aren't they perpetuating the vices of society? MTV provides a window into what's wrong with this country.
Yet we have violent movies ,tv shows ,and pornargraghy doing the same thing, why finger point hip-hop and gangsta rap!!
 
I think the people who are like "I hate rap it is all ****" are usually just people who heard a few rap songs that they didn't like, and decided everything in the genre is exactly that way, and also happen to be the sort of person who thinks anything they don't find appealing is automatically no-talent horse ****. That's the case with people who blindly hate just about any genre.

Whoever uses the term "I hate rap" may as well say, "I hate food". There are that many different variations on the genre. Backpacking, hardcore, crunk, dirty south, east coast, west coast, rap-metal, hip-pop, trip-hop, etc.

Now, the people who are saying how rap is repetitive and oh it sucks and stuff like that because they only talk about sex, drugs and violence. Well, rap has grown so much that it has something called 'sub-genres'. All that type of rap is known to be Hardcore Rap/Gangsta Rap.

That's the one everyone supposedly hates. And that's why it's so repetitive. Because it's in the same genre...Duuuurrrrh.

There are other types of rap you know. People who don't really curse and don't talk about the things you all are bringing up. They talk about positive things about life. They are rather poets interpreting their feelings through a beat.

People like Common, Talib Kwali, Jurassic 5, Mos Def and many others. They're not your typical crotch-grabbing, gun toting rappers.

Besides, even gangsta rappers, at some point, soften up their lyrics for particular songs.

I'm usually open to almost every type of music. And I grew up on rap/hip-Hop and R&B. So, to see people make comments on rap and I know that many of you haven't even listened probably 5 songs from 5 different artists. I wouldn't jump the gun as to saying "I hate it because it's crap."

Most of you just need to think outside the box and actually listen to some other type of music and give it a chance. You might like it. You never know what kind of gold you'll find when you're randomly searching for something new. There is more to music than what you hear on the radio or on your favorite tv show.

One thing that really irks me, though, is whenever someone brings up certain type of music in a topic, there's bound to be some racial siding. Black kids will go with rap and whites with rock. Music should't have to be associated with a race. Music is a universal language.

Gosh, if that didn't make me sound like a hippie, I don't know what did.
 
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