I also find it funny how some people are trying so hard to predict how the movie will play out, which leads to guesses in the plot and so fourth being extremely unfaithful to what we know TMNT should be. Isn't Bay the same guy who got together with Transformers fans and past creators to help give him guidance in how the movies should be made? Okay, he took some creative liberties here and there, especially with the second movie, but does that really make him a predictable cliche?