Kamen Rider x Kamen Rider.... questions

[jwk94]

Alright, so guys, im really confuseed as to what happened with this movie, so i have some questions.

1) What happened to "the real" Tsukasa?

2) What happened to that trailer at the end of Decade 31?

3) What the hell happened to Wataru and Kenzaki-san?? I thought all the AU Riders were gone at the end of 31 and the real ones came back to kill Tsukasa...

4) Please, someone tell me that the movie in the trailer at the end of 31 is real.

5) And why'd Narutaki hate Decade so much? What the hell'd Tsukasa do?

 

[Wing Saber]

Alright, so guys, im really confuseed as to what happened with this movie, so i have some questions.

1) What happened to "the real" Tsukasa?

2) What happened to that trailer at the end of Decade 31?

3) What the hell happened to Wataru and Kenzaki-san?? I thought all the AU Riders were gone at the end of 31 and the real ones came back to kill Tsukasa...

4) Please, someone tell me that the movie in the trailer at the end of 31 is real.

The trailer along with the original cliffhanger ending is now considered non-cannon. Not to mention that once the AU Riders were erased, the originals were forced to make Tsukasa carry out his role, even if it meant their deaths. However it turned out that by killing them, he wound up preserving them. Thus the AU Riders were revived. Therefore Decade wound up recreating the Rider universe.

 

[jwk94]

That first sentence made my heart wrench, you dont know how mad i am now, that's totally not cool! That was gonna be an awesome movie! And the whole tsukasa explanation thing you gave waas confusing, decade was a very confusing series.

 

[Wing Saber]

That first sentence made my heart wrench, you dont know how mad i am now, that's totally not cool! That was gonna be an awesome movie! And the whole tsukasa explanation thing you gave waas confusing, decade was a very confusing series.

That's how I felt about Decade as well, you have to wait until the end to get an idea what's going on. Which was both exciting & confusing at the same time.

When Toei reaired Decade, they edited the ending so that it could fit in with Movie War. From what I heard, it was due to an ethics committee displeasure with the cliffhanger one.

 

[NoirSon]

That first sentence made my heart wrench, you dont know how mad i am now, that's totally not cool! That was gonna be an awesome movie! And the whole tsukasa explanation thing you gave waas confusing, decade was a very confusing series.

Yeah, you and me both. Basically, it looks like we as fans were either rickrolled (twice if you thought Natsumi's dream would in some way equal or match the Rider War we got. ) or at some point they switch creative gears (again) and went for the cheapest and most economical way to wrap things up and leave room for future Decade crossovers.

I kind of think it might be a little of both, I sort of feel that Double's segment originally wasn't going to crossover but that could just be my imagination.




Still pissed off about them shitting on Ultimate Kuuga like they have in both the show and movies.

 

[NeonZ]

1) What happened to "the real" Tsukasa?

2) What happened to that trailer at the end of Decade 31?

New version of episode 31 removed the trailer and changed the ending...

3) What the hell happened to Wataru and Kenzaki-san?? I thought all the AU Riders were gone at the end of 31 and the real ones came back to kill Tsukasa...

The Blade that Tsukasa used to defeat Ryuuki was voiced by Kenzaki's actor. Those Riders Tsukasa was beating initially weren't the ones he had met in his journey.

4) Please, someone tell me that the movie in the trailer at the end of 31 is real.

It isn't.

5) And why'd Narutaki hate Decade so much? What the hell'd Tsukasa do?

Never explained.

Basically, it looks like we as fans were either rickrolled (twice if you thought Natsumi's dream would in some way equal or match the Rider War we got. )

It's kind of cheaply put together, but watch the new ending to episode 31...

 

[jwk94]

Wow, i really hate Toei for doing that, if getting that first ending meant no double crossover i would've been on board, and I didn't really consider what we got a Rider War, it was more of a washed down All Riders.

 

[NeonZ]

Wow, i really hate Toei for doing that, if getting that first ending meant no double crossover i would've been on board

Double was at the end of the original promo. Considering how Double even appeared in All Riders, I think they never intended to actually not feature another crossover with him in Movie Wars.

I didn't really consider what we got a Rider War, it was more of a washed down All Riders.

Like I've said before, watch the new ending to episode 31. It doesn't really fix everything, but it's pretty different from the original...

 

[alpha red]

ya, i also agree... they made the story of decade very confusing.. i don even know which kabuto was decade killing at the beginning of the movie.. at the trailer at the end of decade episode 31, i think i saw tsukasa falling down by the seashore, yuusuke carry diend up with one arm, natsumi carrying a rifle and narutaki jumping on decade's back, very surprising none of these scenes appearing in the movie.. i wonder what is that trailer though..
toei sure likes to show off nowadays.. seeing double appearing in all riders, n goseiger appearing in 'shinkenger vs go-onger'..

 

[Wing Saber]

ya, i also agree... they made the story of decade very confusing.. i don even know which kabuto was decade killing at the beginning of the movie.. at the trailer at the end of decade episode 31, i think i saw tsukasa falling down by the seashore, yuusuke carry diend up with one arm, natsumi carrying a rifle and narutaki jumping on decade's back, very surprising none of these scenes appearing in the movie.. i wonder what is that trailer though..
toei sure likes to show off nowadays.. seeing double appearing in all riders, n goseiger appearing in 'shinkenger vs go-onger'..

I think that was the original Kabuto.