It's official... Nintendo has won...


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This is news? I could have told you it would play out like this a month ago, suprising the amount of 360 sales Topped the other by that much though, but 360 is a good little system.
 
Well... we all knew this would happen.


But it just feels like a good way to rub it into Sony's face after their wonderful year of F-ups leading to the PS3's flawed launch
 
Nintendo sold 476,140 of its Wii consoles in the United States in November while Sony managed to sell 196,580 of its new PlayStations, according to industry tracking group NPD.
I love the spin that this part of the article has because it can be totally misleading. After all, remember that Sony didn't have that many PS3's available to be sold to begin with because of the technical problems it had been having. Nintendo undoubtedly had larger amounts of their system available when it launched.

The popularity isn't showed JUST by the raw numbers of systems that are sold, or at least it shouldn't be. The percentage that are sold of what is available is equally as, if not more important, because it shows which system is more in demand (i.e. which one more people are looking for). Sure the PS3 sold "only" 196,580 systems. However, if they only had 200,000 available to begin with, that means they sold 98% of what they had available.

Nintendo sold 476,140, but if they had, say 1 million units available, then they only sold 47.6% of what they had available.

98% sold vs 47% sold...hmmm...regardless of how many units were sold, which one do you think was more IN DEMAND here?

Think about it, people will go to Best Buy or Toys R Us looking for a PS3. When they find out that there aren't any available because they all sold out, rather than go home empty-handed, many will "settle" for Nintendo's system, because the store will still have some in stock.
 
I can only respond to your point with this:

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Seriously bro. The fact that Sony didn't have enough consoles means they're more popular? The fact that the Wii is all over the media while everyone's forgotten the PS3, which only got in the news because people got shot in line, and the fact that those long lines sold entirely to people looking to make a profit online doesn't mean anything?

I can understand you want to support your system, bro, but hard facts are hard facts. The Nintendo makes money on every Wii it sells. Sony loses around $800 (I believe.) So who do you REALLY think is winning?
 
Seriously bro. The fact that Sony didn't have enough consoles means they're more popular? The fact that the Wii is all over the media while everyone's forgotten the PS3, which only got in the news because people got shot in line, and the fact that those long lines sold entirely to people looking to make a profit online doesn't mean anything?
I doubt that the PS3 has been forgotten. If anything, more people are anticipating the next batch that's coming out. It's about "supply and demand". The smaller number of units (of PS3s) now is creating an even greater demand for them as the next batches are being set to be released. The proof is in the people/geeks who still say that they'll be willing to camp out overnight (like they did during the initial launch date) for a chance to get at the new batches of PS3s. The demand that is there for the PS3 shows it's popularity.

Nintendo's system is something to tide them over until more PS3's arrive. Remember, these new systems have only been out for a few weeks, and something similar happened with the PS2 (where they were initially being outsold by other systems). Over the long haul though, the PS2 continued to grow and improve in sales. Sure right now over the short term Sony may be losing money with the PS3, but the short term doesn't really matter. Sony will continue producing and selling PS3's, and over years covered by the long term, the PS3 will undoubtedly grow to dominate. It may take a while, but past trends show that it's bound to happen.


I can understand you want to support your system, bro, but hard facts are hard facts.
Actually, I didn't buy either. Don't really plan to. My brother is the gamer of the family. Personally I could care less about which one actually sells more. :laugh:


So who do you REALLY think is winning?
The suits who run Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo of course. There are people who are buying one of each system (PS3, 360, and Nintendo's system). That's a total of what, $2000-$2500, if not more? That doesn't include the games and accessories either. Whoever gets the coinage wins.
 
I'd have to agree with VG and would like to add something more. JFC, you may be right in saying in that consumers decided to "settle" for the Wii due to the fact that there weren't enough PS3s...but it's not Nintendo's problem if Sony didn't ship out enough units to support the demand. Add to that the possibility of the casual PS gamers now lured to the Wii and Nintendo because of the Wii's revolutionary gameplay and Sony has a serious problem on its hand.

A lot of people I know only think "sweet graphics and more horsepower" when we talk about the PS3. I don't think that's enough for the PS3 to rely on, besides its stable of exclusive franchises. Once you're at the top, like Sony was, you either stay there or go down. The Wii and XB 360 are definitely pulling the PS3 down.
 

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