Ultraman Trigger talkback

Captain Shark

An ocean of depression and misery
They just have showa monsters in the Warriors of Light timeline. Recycled costumes no less. And the villains are more or less clones of the ones from Final Odyssey. Hype is dead.
 

Toku Prime

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So just to be clear, Captain Shark, you're disappointed that it turns out that the show that actively promotes itself as being a remake of Tiga contains villains that are remade versions of ones from Tiga? Honestly, I'm not sure what else you'd expect them to be?

I just watched the first episode and while it hasn't grabbed me as much as Z did there were some parts that I enjoyed. There are people who know who Trigger really is right from the start, which is unusual. I hope they use that a bit. It looks like we'll get the new defense team next week so I'll see what it's like once the real status quo of the show is in place.
 

Dr Kain

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Oh my god, that camera work for the fight between Trigger and GolzaMelba was so damn amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Captain Shark

An ocean of depression and misery
So just to be clear, Captain Shark, you're disappointed that it turns out that the show that actively promotes itself as being a remake of Tiga contains villains that are remade versions of ones from Tiga? Honestly, I'm not sure what else you'd expect them to be?
Wait, Trigger is a remake? I thought it was in the same continuity. I expected a continuation after Dyna (technically after when the Gransphere was attacking Mars in Ultraman Saga but you know what I mean).

Still haven't seen the first episode. I don't know, it feels like keeping up with everything is such a chore now.
 

scikaiju

science experiment gone wrong
Well the full title is Ultraman Trigger new generation Tiga. Sort of implies that it's a new version of an old character.

But it was a decent first episode, nothing spectacular but serviceable enough to get things going. But I do like how they're setting up that certain character, trying to stay spoiler free here, seem to know more about what's going on than they should. It should be fun to see how this plays out.
 

Toku Prime

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Episode two was OK. I'm still not sure exactly how much his mother knows, but at least we established who on the team knows that he's Trigger, and that having this season's version of the glowey hologram woman be played by the same actor who plays another character is a plot point and not just something they hoped we'd overlook.

The opening theme is really catchy though. 👍
Wait, Trigger is a remake? I thought it was in the same continuity. I expected a continuation after Dyna (technically after when the Gransphere was attacking Mars in Ultraman Saga but you know what I mean).
Well the series' lead director, Koichi Sakomoto, recently insisted in an interview that the show is neither a sequel or a remake, and is simply using Tiga in it's publicity to take advantage of a popular season celebrating it's anniversary.

Then Tiga was briefly shown in a flashback in the first episode. So who knows where we stand? Though my guess is it will be an alternate Tiga rather than the one from his own show, if indeed they even bother showing him again.
Still haven't seen the first episode. I don't know, it feels like keeping up with everything is such a chore now.
Oh I can understand that. I stopped watching Saber when Genm stopped subbing it, and stopped watching Zenkaiger for about six weeks because I completely burned out. Trying to catch up on both now, but taking a break sometimes really helps.
 
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Dr Kain

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Episode 2 was solid considering it was there to introduce a crap ton of cast members. The camerwork during the fights continue to impress and it was nice seeing a monster I'm not familiar with, though, they really should stick to monsters from the Tiga universe that haven't been seen since Tiga.

The opening theme was good, but is no Take Me Higher. Oh I can't wait to hear that glorious song a million times come Oct when Mill Creek's DVDs come out.

As for continuity, Tiga clearly happened as they talk about him appearing and Reina is Kengo's mother. Makes you wonder if Daigo is his father, which means Daigo better show up later or I'm calling bullshit!!

Why did Gemn stop subbing Saber? Who is doing the subs for it?
 

scikaiju

science experiment gone wrong
It was a good episode but if this was a regular 52 episode series this probably would have been a two parter. They jammed in a lot of stuff, new character good and evil, not to mention introducing power type. Also the situation with Akiko, think that's his name, seemingly reached a resolution a little too quickly. Knowing what I know of Tiga's story I wonder if we're going to see "Evil Trigger" at some point. As the link to Tiga, I'm agreeing with opinions I've seen elsewhere the chairman is from Tiga's universe, he knows way too much and acting like he's seen a lot of this before.

On a side note, has anyone else been looking at those audio dramas they been releasing around thr same time as the regular episode? They're not related to Trigger in any wy, like the one last year with Z. They take place early days of Ribut and Sora's in the Galaxy Rescue Force. I only bring it up because they're subbing this batch as well.
 

Dr Kain

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the chairman is from Tiga's universe, he knows way too much and acting like he's seen a lot of this before.
And again, don't forget that Reina is Kengo's mother, who was also in the original show and they even mentioned her exploits in that in the first episode.
 

Toku Prime

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The opening theme was good, but is no Take Me Higher. Oh I can't wait to hear that glorious song a million times come Oct when Mill Creek's DVDs come out.
Eh, I've never understood what all the fuss was about with Take Me Higher. It's a pretty generic eurodance song from that time period. It's just that rather than let the Italian guy who originally wrote it release it, they translated the lyrics and got Daigo's actor and his band to sing it.
As for continuity, Tiga clearly happened as they talk about him appearing and Reina is Kengo's mother. Makes you wonder if Daigo is his father, which means Daigo better show up later or I'm calling bullshit!!
I believe I read that the two characters names are spelt using different characters in Japanese. Until we something more concrete, I'm not yet sure they are doing anything more than sprinkling in similar names as homages. For example, the name that Kengo gave his plant is the same as the name of the ancient civilization in whose ruins the Tiga statue was found in that show.

Though part of my reluctance to regard her as being Rena could just simply be because Tsuburaya have told that story before a couple of different ways.
There was a Tiga Gaiden in which Daigo and Ren's teenage son becomes Tiga.
Rena's actress also appeared five years ago in the Ultraman X movie as a new character - an archeologist who uncovers an ancient artifact that turns out to be a Sparklence variant - which her young son uses to become Tiga.
Why did Gemn stop subbing Saber? Who is doing the subs for it?
IIRC real life just got in the way. One of their team needed to start working more hours and couldn't continue. At first it seemed like it was only temporary, but they've only done two episodes since, taking them up to episode 20.

In terms of numbers of downloads, the most popular seems to be Izu Subs. However I've heard that their subs kind of ignore characters' speaking patterns so everyone sounds the same. They also apparently have a habit of shortening names, so for example when a character says "wonder ride book" the subs just read "w.r. book." Again, that's just what I've heard from other people; I haven't really watched their work.

The subs I have been using during my catch-up were from FlameSubs. They are much more like a continuation of the Genm Corp subs (though without the text effects Genm had started using). They can be found on "the cat site." IIRC episodes 21 and 22 were just the sub files that you had to attach to a raw video yourself. It was only from episode 23 that they started making them as soft-subbed video files.
 
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Dr Kain

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Why would I care if the subs ignore speaking patterns or not? The purpose of subs is to tell me what the characters are saying, not how they are saying it. I can hear their speaking patterns just fine. This isn't a dig at you, but that seems to be a very weird complaint. In fact, I tend to find it distracting when subbers try to add in slang to match their dialog.

Anyway, I think FlameSubs is who I got the special from, so I'm good. I'll just wait until OZC Live does Blu-Ray scrubs before I even attempt download Saber.

Now back to the Trigger, I'm not sure how the names are spelled differently. I haven't seen any of the characters from Tiga have their names in English in the show itself yet.

For some reason, I thought it was Iruma's actress that was the mother in the X movie, not Reina's.

As for Take Me Higher, it's because I love the composition. The music is simply superb and far better than most of the opening songs that have come out in the last decade. In fact, Take Me Higher is the only Ultraman song from the Heisei period I remember off the top of my head. I don't have a single opening from any other Heisei series memorized. Well, maybe I do for Orb's, but I have to think really hard to remember it.
 

Toku Prime

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I'll just wait until OZC Live does Blu-Ray scrubs before I even attempt download Saber.
I think their latest stuff is being called Non-actionable Fansubs.
I don't have a single opening from any other Heisei series memorized. Well, maybe I do for Orb's, but I have to think really hard to remember it.
Max and Mebius are more memorable for me. And a good chunk of the New Generation shows. But Tsuburaya didn't have many memorable songs at all back in the 90s.
 

scikaiju

science experiment gone wrong
they didn't keep that a mystery for long did they. Granted In Tiga I don't know if the plan was for the Captain( want to say her name was Izuma but I think I might be wrong) was going to be the descendant of that show's mystery lady all along or if it was something they decided on while writing Final Odessy but were three episodes in on Trigger. Granted they probably want to hype up the Eterenty core thing as the final story arc, but there had to be a way to bring in the core and keep the mystery going. Outside of that it was a decent episode and a good introduction to the treasure hunter, hopefully they'll keep him more of. Gray character instead of just having him join with Guts Select full time down the line.
 

Dr Kain

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. Outside of that it was a decent episode and a good introduction to the treasure hunter, hopefully they'll keep him more of. Gray character instead of just having him join with Guts Select full time down the line.
As much as I love Basco here, I hope he's more than that. I also would love to see them make use of his English skills.

My other fear is that the three dark giants are going to turn good by the end of the series. They need to just stay villains from start to finish. No more of this redemption bullshit Toku shows have been pulling in the last few years.

Never seen Final Odyssey. I'll definitely do so when Mill Creek brings it out in Oct.
 

Dr Kain

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Episode 4 sucked, but you know what sucks even worse? Next week is a FUCKING CLIP SHOW!!! What the **** do they need a clipshow for as episode 5??????????????
 
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