The Original Kiva...

[Shirogane]

This might be a question that we'll eventually be answered as Kamen Rider Kiva goes on, but I'd like to discuss it anyway.

Who do you think is the original Kiva, the one who run rampant in 1986? Obviously, it can't be Wataru as he is technically a baby back then, so who do you think it could be (then again, Castle Doran says it can bring people back in time, so maybe Wataru ended up there and run amok)? Another Fangire? Otoya himself?

 

[Alcin91]

IMO,i still think Otoya will be the one being the humanity's enemy kiva. But there is always a chance for other characters though

 

[aniking_8]

There might be chance is not Otoya because upto now there a lot of false prediction like Wataru maybe not be Otoya's son also there more new characters appearing also the checkmate 4 in 1986 haven't completely reveal them all.

 

[Nogami]

or maybe that the previous kivat manipulated someone important to henshin into kiva for him to take over the world

 

[Black Fang]

'86 Kiva isn't the original, just one of a long line of Kivas.

 

[arnoldmcguire335]

'86 Kiva isn't the original, just one of a long line of Kivas.

Yeah I think Kivat isn't even in that timeline, only the Fangaires.

And since the show all shows what happened in '86, then the Gorgom empire (from KR Black, the series that takes place a year after the events in '86 Kiva) don't even know what Fangaires are doing.

 

[Black Fang]

That would be due to Black and Kiva not existing in the same continuity.

 

[semi_master83]

well, we all have seen kivat the 2nd around maya in 86'. plus in episode 20 when Wataru was possessed by Otoya, he talked about kivat the 2nd to kivat the 3rd. so my bet is that the 86' kiva is maya. i mean there has got to be some kind of big drama that happens at the end of the 86 storyline. since we know Wataru is half human/fangire. i bet that maya will almost go crazy when whoever king is tells her to forget whatever feelings she has and to just kill everything and everyone and Otoya some how manages to snap her out of it. cause how else will wataru inherited Kiva, hell even be born for that fact?