The Death of Batman

Not to mention Clark and Lois now have an adopted son. Progression in a superhero title? Unheard of

Like Superman's death being a publicity stunt, like Cival War being a publcity stunt, like Spidey's marraige being retconned being a publcity stunt, everything eventually returns to normalcy (and Dan Slott let something slip accidently on CBR that told me BND is just an arc) eventually.

Red Robin is almost an admission of defeat by DC that Todd's return wasnt popular and they gave him a coustume and storyline that could only befit a dork

And yep, Bruce is'nt going to die

I actually enjoyed supermen's death storyline.
 

Skyknight

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I did'nt say it sucked, I said it was a publicity stunt

Anything that gives us Superman with a mullet , sow the seeds of Emerald Twilight, and Hank Henshaw can't suck
 

Keith Justice

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Sorry to disappoint, but he is NOT going to die. Not only has the head honchos at DC said it's not going to happen, but the Batman RIP is just a continuation of the current storyline where he gets shot in the chest and apparently meets many of the crazier Batman secondary characters from the 50s incarnation. He does "die" technically, but he doesn't stay dead.

Simple Death=Higher Sales as the Superman and Captain America death proved and comic book companies like any form of business seek to earn maximum returns on their investment.


Well to be fair, the writing side of the company tried to undo the marriage twice and both times got shot down.

Wait, so it's not really going to happen? That's a shame. I know it's a stunt, but that stunt would've gotten me to pick up a Batman comic. I haven't read one since that big earthquake that hit.

I would like to see how the world does without Bruce Wayne and how someone else would handle the mantle of Batman.
 

Mega Ranger

Member
Wait, so it's not really going to happen? That's a shame. I know it's a stunt, but that stunt would've gotten me to pick up a Batman comic. I haven't read one since that big earthquake that hit.

I would like to see how the world does without Bruce Wayne and how someone else would handle the mantle of Batman.

Not well as Earth-51 proved. But seriously Keith no matter who took up the mantle you'd just cry weak sauce at the end. only Dick could really be him and we don't want that. Also with the exception of the Paul Dini issues of Detective Comcis recently....you havn't missed anything since "No Mans Land"
 

Keith Justice

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Actually I wouldn't call weak sauce if they chose Dick or anybody else. I'd prefer that to happen.

I'd actually pick up a comic to see what was going on. I had good times with Nightwing and he's different enough and fallible enough that it'd be interesting seeing him try to fill the shoes of Batman.
 

Ragna "D" BloodEdge

By the Power of Gaia!!!
Dick's already moved past being the next Batman to me if it ever happened. He's already carved out his own path as Nightwing. Plus, he's got enough on his plate with his own title and being part of the reformed Titans lineup that's coming up.
 

Keith Justice

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All the more reason that it'd be interesting to see him be Batman. Of if that's the reason why he wouldn't be, just anybody else would be interesting.
 

Conan-san

Member
It's ok people, all that needs to be done is to go to the devil alogory badguy and say you'll give up your marage and such and it'll all be fun and happy.
Also requires the sacrifice of some 20 years of comics but WHO CARES WHOOT!
 

Skyknight

Lurker
Personally, I thought the Superman: Doomsday movie actually surpassed its source material, and gave it more class.

Doomsday had a pedophile Toy Man who killed children. THAT'S class?:eyebrow:

Doomsday was a mess. An enjoyable movie, but it was obvious Timm didnt know what to make it, an adaptation, Superman: TAS, or another Superman interpretation. It resembled nothing of the original story, and "World Without" and "Reign" are good enough storylines to afford a DVD trilogy at best. I would have loved to have seen Lex's speech when he was alone with the coffin.
 

ryuuseipro

New Member
Doomsday had a pedophile Toy Man who killed children. THAT'S class?:eyebrow:

Doomsday was a mess. An enjoyable movie, but it was obvious Timm didnt know what to make it, an adaptation, Superman: TAS, or another Superman interpretation. It resembled nothing of the original story, and "World Without" and "Reign" are good enough storylines to afford a DVD trilogy at best. I would have loved to have seen Lex's speech when he was alone with the coffin.

Pedophile!? Wow, never thought of that when I saw the movie. :laugh:

I didn't care if it followed the Superman:TAS continuity or not (if it did, I wouldn't be surprised), but I thought it took the whole Doomsday story arc and actually made it comprehensible and good in the context of a feature film (whereas the comic was just plain adolescent and cynical; typical for post-1980s mainstream superhero comics). You're entitled to your opinion, but I dunno about the movie being a "mess," as much as I thought the source material was a huge mess.

Just my 2 cents.
 

Kenori

Member
Pedophile!? Wow, never thought of that when I saw the movie. :laugh:

I didn't care if it followed the Superman:TAS continuity or not (if it did, I wouldn't be surprised), but I thought it took the whole Doomsday story arc and actually made it comprehensible and good in the context of a feature film (whereas the comic was just plain adolescent and cynical; typical for post-1980s mainstream superhero comics). You're entitled to your opinion, but I dunno about the movie being a "mess," as much as I thought the source material was a huge mess.

Just my 2 cents.

QFT, though I think it would have taken a 3 DVD box set just to tell the full Reign storyline.
 

Skyknight

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I didn't care if it followed the Superman:TAS continuity or not (if it did, I wouldn't be surprised), but I thought it took the whole Doomsday story arc and actually made it comprehensible and good in the context of a feature film (whereas the comic was just plain adolescent and cynical; typical for post-1980s mainstream superhero comics)

Superman: Doomsday WAS adolescent and cynical.

Toyman in some queer Spider isnt adolescent? Kevin Smith's cameo that goes over people's heads not in on the joke isnt cynical? That Luthor's shock value murder of Mercy was logical plottingl? Oh no, Doomsday was wank for Timm fanboy nerds, but a competent Superman story that could have done much more with "Reign"? Absoltuely not.

And "Reign" wasnt a mess at all, it had excellent twists, and Lois's experiances with all of them had some graciously powerful scenes. Yes, she kind of got phased out of the story when Mullet Supes returned, but from her point of view, it was handled far in superior ways to Lois in "Doomsday" (except for visiting Martha)

QFT, though I think it would have taken a 3 DVD box set just to tell the full Reign storyline.

And there's no problem with that. Warner makes more money, the animators can provide fans with set-peices like Green Lantern vs Mongul, Superman and Eradicator in the Kryptonite smog. The action in "Reign" is amazing.
 
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Eldar

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And more importantly DC has another weekly planned starring Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. Killing one of the three early on is really going to sink the book.
 

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