My Journey's Start to Ultraman

In the past, I've seen various episodes of Ultraman shows. But just a few weeks ago, I finally decided to sit down and watch my first full Ultraman series, Ultraman Nexus. Yes, I'm one of those guys. :p

I was pretty bored and was itching to watch a new toku that I could enjoy. A lot of people had recommended Nexus to me, telling me that while it's a deviation to Ultra, it had a lot of elements I loved in toku. And well, the people who recommended it to me ended up being right. I really enjoyed Nexus a lot. It somewhat felt like the third coming of Kuuga and Agito to me. The characters were all so lovable and played by excellent actors. And the plots were all very creative. The show had like the aggressiveness that shows like 555 and Kabuto have, except well, Nexus to my surprise did a very good job with what it did, whereas 555 and Kabuto failed imo. And while Nexus certainly was a deviation, I didn't feel like it was THAT much of a deviation (unlike the majority of the Metal Heroes). I felt like it was a pretty cool spin on it's own formula.

Lately, I've been thinking if I should check out a second series at all. Basically, I've always been a big Sentai fan, and I particularly love the shows where the team feels like a family. I've seen various episodes of each of the main Ultra shows, and this is what my experience has brought me so far:

Ultraman: Seems like a decent show. But honestly, I feel more drawn to Seven. :p

Ultraseven: Seen a few eps, and I must say it's quite good. Very high quality toku stuff.~ Plus, I like how the Ultra in this is actually a human in disguise. I feel like it brings more emotion and character to the hero.

Leo: Looks okay. Seems pretty dark. And the action looks good. But aside from that, I haven't quite found anything for it to draw me in yet.

Tiga: The backstories for this show sound pretty interesting. And I know that Tiga is a fan favorite. Though I felt somewhat bored from the few eps I saw. And the main character didn't really interest me all that much.

Gaia: This show seems decent. And I heard the whole Gaia vs Agul stuff is some of the best stuff ever. I'll admit, this is one of the shows that sounds a bit more interesting.

Neos: Seems decent, but not entirely sure how to feel about it. It's a show I rarely ever hear people talk about. I love the ending song. :p

Cosmos: I'm really not sure how to feel about this show from the few eps I saw. And I realized that people seem very divided on this show.

Max: Same as Cosmos. Not sure how to feel about it. And people seem quite divided on it from what I've seen. Though Max did seem a bit more fun to watch than Cosmos.

Mebius: Hailed as the best anniversary show ever. I admit, I'm kinda curious to know what all the hype is about. The first few eps were okay, but they haven't quite caught my attention.

Ultra Bros Movies: Not a series, but I keep hearing great things about them.
 

Shoichi

Lurker
most Ultra series from Tiga onwards up-profiled the role and the characterizations of the defence team members in the series. prior to that most series' defence teams existed as nothing but cardboard fodder.

the entertainment is always there but the storytelling really did begin to pick up from Tiga onwards.
 
most Ultra series from Tiga onwards up-profiled the role and the characterizations of the defence team members in the series. prior to that most series' defence teams existed as nothing but cardboard fodder.

the entertainment is always there but the storytelling really did begin to pick up from Tiga onwards.

Oh, I see. Maybe I'll play around a bit more with the Heisei stuff then. Though Seven still seems quite good.
 

Shynilyte

Shyni
A lot of people had recommended Nexus to me, telling me that while it's a deviation to Ultra, it had a lot of elements I loved in toku. (...) And while Nexus certainly was a deviation, I didn't feel like it was THAT much of a deviation (unlike the majority of the Metal Heroes). I felt like it was a pretty cool spin on it's own formula.
At least where major themes are concerned, Nexus doesn't deviate too far from Ultraman in general.

Ultraseven: Seen a few eps, and I must say it's quite good. Very high quality toku stuff.~ Plus, I like how the Ultra in this is actually a human in disguise. I feel like it brings more emotion and character to the hero.
Wha? Seven/Dan is an alien. Or did you mean to say "is disguised as a human"?

Tiga: The backstories for this show sound pretty interesting. And I know that Tiga is a fan favorite. Though I felt somewhat bored from the few eps I saw. And the main character didn't really interest me all that much.
Try Dyna, then. You don't really need to know much about Tiga to be able to follow it, and at least in my experience, there's less feel of slowness. But maybe that's due to the soundtrack. At least he Spheres-related episodes are pretty decent.
 
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most Ultra series from Tiga onwards up-profiled the role and the characterizations of the defence team members in the series. prior to that most series' defence teams existed as nothing but cardboard fodder.

No, the older shows gave their supporting characters plenty of development.
 
K

Kamen Rider IXA

Guest
I have watched most of Heisei Ultra by now.

Ultraman - It's a sci-fi show, but I found it a bit boring. Probably because I watch a lot of eps per day.

Tiga - Good series. Serious enough, but lack of dynamic story makes it boring. I think you will enjoy series in best way, if you watch it slowly.

Dyna - I can't say it's much more DYNAmic, but a bit more entertaining, I guess. Being not as dark as Tiga, it's still a good show (probably my third favorite, after Nexus and Mebius) and the final part... is just badass. It really is.

Gaia - I didn't enjoy this series as much as Tiga and Dyna. It has some kind of story, but I couldn't understand much of it without subs. In addition, Agul has appeared only in 4-5 (If I remember correctly) episodes, during first half.

Nexus - No cooments here. Anyone, who calls himself a Tokufan should watch this. Best Toku, ever.

Mebius - One of the best Ultra Series. This is how anniversary should be done. Lots of interesting characters, good storylines, lots of characters from Showa Series.

Ultra Galaxy Mega Monster Battle - Good series about Kaiju. Second season is much better, than first one. I found both season enjoyable.

Zero Movies - The most expensive TokuMovies, nowdays. Everyone should try them, but only after Mebius and UltraGalaxy. Third film has Dyna and Cosmos, so it's better to also watch them, before Ultraman Saga.
 

Shynilyte

Shyni
Yeah, my bad. :p
Well, 80, Leo and Mebius were also aliens disguised as humans instead of aliens merged with humans, so those might be interesting for you too. 80 tried to give the main character an even more complicated life by having also work as a teacher outside of his monster fighting duties, since he believed human hatred was the reason earth is always threatened by kaiju, and he wanted to teach kids to be better people.

At least, that's what I read. I only saw 80's episodes like... 12-13 years ago now.

Dyna - I can't say it's much more DYNAmic, but a bit more entertaining, I guess. Being not as dark as Tiga, it's still a good show (probably my third favorite, after Nexus and Mebius) and the final part... is just badass. It really is.
Dyna has more interesting powers than Tiga, too. I mean c'mon, knocking things into another dimension (Revolium wave) is way cooler than throwing lightning. And Dyna can attack things during his transformation.

Gaia - I didn't enjoy this series as much as Tiga and Dyna. It has some kind of story, but I couldn't understand much of it without subs. In addition, Agul has appeared only in 4-5 (If I remember correctly) episodes, during first half.
Yeah, there really needs to be subs for this.

Ultra Galaxy Mega Monster Battle - Good series about Kaiju. Second season is much better, than first one. I found both season enjoyable.
I found the overuse of Gomora a bit disappointing. Should've shown off other kaiju a little more.

Zero Movies - The most expensive TokuMovies, nowdays.
Wait, most expensive? Really?
 

Scissors

Member
Mebius: Hailed as the best anniversary show ever. I admit, I'm kinda curious to know what all the hype is about. The first few eps were okay, but they haven't quite caught my attention.

Did you get to the Bogal/Hikari arc?
Those episodes were pretty much the writers telling us "THIS is how great the show is going to be!"

After this arc, the show did slow down a little bit, but I did not mind that at all, because they did it to put more flesh on the characters. I don't think there was a single character that didn't get some kind of focus. Even the wacky GUYS leader got some (God I loved that guy!)
Mebius really had some of the best casts I have seen in an Ultraman show.

Do yourself a favour and keep watching.
After episode 24 or so, the show really kicks in, and you start getting the tribute episodes for the Showa ultras, as well as the build-up for the big bad.
 

Toku Prime

Well-Known Member
most Ultra series from Tiga onwards up-profiled the role and the characterizations of the defence team members in the series. prior to that most series' defence teams existed as nothing but cardboard fodder.

the entertainment is always there but the storytelling really did begin to pick up from Tiga onwards.
...which means I'll probably never bother with the older series then. I abandoned Tiga after 6 episodes and Max after 10 for exactly the same reason - the main human casts seem to have the mental age of pre-schoolers, they do the same damn thing every week even though it never works (ooh there's a monster, let's fly at it. Oh it disappeared. Oh look it's back, let's fly at it. Oh no it knocked us out of the sky. Hey where'd that new guy go? :nooo:) and by and large the acting is waaay below that of Rider or Sentai. I'd seen Neos which was the same, but at least I could chalk that up to it being a straight to DVD mini-series. Tiga and Max had no excuse. Maybe one day I'll give them another shot, but so far the only thing I can recommend about them is to listen to Max's theme tune, which is admittedly awesome.

I'm currently a half dozen episodes into Mebius/Moebius and I have to say, so far, it's really enjoyable. I'd recommend that any day if it stays like this. This is the first Ultra series I've tried that didn't seem like a chore to watch, so I'm hoping it will convert me to the franchise.
 

Shoichi

Lurker
No, the older shows gave their supporting characters plenty of development.

save for the first 3 series, I'm not sure I knew much about the TAC, ZAT, MAC and UGM fellows at the end of their respective series, especially in Leo. I really felt nothing when MAC was obliterated by Silver Bloom, except wonder if I was ever going to see Ultraseven again.

...which means I'll probably never bother with the older series then. I abandoned Tiga after 6 episodes and Max after 10 for exactly the same reason - the main human casts seem to have the mental age of pre-schoolers, they do the same damn thing every week even though it never works (ooh there's a monster, let's fly at it. Oh it disappeared. Oh look it's back, let's fly at it. Oh no it knocked us out of the sky. Hey where'd that new guy go? :nooo:) and by and large the acting is waaay below that of Rider or Sentai. I'd seen Neos which was the same, but at least I could chalk that up to it being a straight to DVD mini-series. Tiga and Max had no excuse.

I didn't like Max but I absolutely loved Tiga. Give it another try. It's what revived the Ultraman genre after 16 years of inactivity on TV screens.

Well, 80, Leo and Mebius were also aliens disguised as humans instead of aliens merged with humans, so those might be interesting for you too. 80 tried to give the main character an even more complicated life by having also work as a teacher outside of his monster fighting duties, since he believed human hatred was the reason earth is always threatened by kaiju, and he wanted to teach kids to be better people.

At least, that's what I read. I only saw 80's episodes like... 12-13 years ago now.

Hahahaha.. the Ultraman teacher thing lasted only about 8 episodes IIRC. I guess 80 couldn't handle 3 jobs at one go (being Yamato, being a teacher, being a UGM member)
 
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Scissors

Member
...which means I'll probably never bother with the older series then. I abandoned Tiga after 6 episodes and Max after 10 for exactly the same reason - the main human casts seem to have the mental age of pre-schoolers, they do the same damn thing every week even though it never works (ooh there's a monster, let's fly at it. Oh it disappeared. Oh look it's back, let's fly at it. Oh no it knocked us out of the sky. Hey where'd that new guy go? :nooo:) and by and large the acting is waaay below that of Rider or Sentai.

Thats one of the reasons why I always loved the Night Raiders (the defence team in Nexus)
They actually DID do ****, blow up monsters and stuff, and I always loved that they actually treated Ultraman as an enemy through the first half of the show.
The only person I couldn't stand was Nagi, who seemed to be a ***** just for the sake of it.
 
Did you get to the Bogal/Hikari arc?
Those episodes were pretty much the writers telling us "THIS is how great the show is going to be!"

After this arc, the show did slow down a little bit, but I did not mind that at all, because they did it to put more flesh on the characters. I don't think there was a single character that didn't get some kind of focus. Even the wacky GUYS leader got some (God I loved that guy!)
Mebius really had some of the best casts I have seen in an Ultraman show.

Do yourself a favour and keep watching.
After episode 24 or so, the show really kicks in, and you start getting the tribute episodes for the Showa ultras, as well as the build-up for the big bad.

Nope, I only watched the first 4 eps of Mebius. When does that arc happen?

the main human casts seem to have the mental age of pre-schoolers, they do the same damn thing every week even though it never works (ooh there's a monster, let's fly at it. Oh it disappeared. Oh look it's back, let's fly at it. Oh no it knocked us out of the sky. Hey where'd that new guy go? :nooo:) and by and large the acting is waaay below that of Rider or Sentai.

:laugh:

I think the actors from what I have seen seem fine. But there have certainly been some characters that I didn't care much for, and that's mostly due to how their written or presented.

Thats one of the reasons why I always loved the Night Raiders (the defence team in Nexus)
They actually DID do ****, blow up monsters and stuff, and I always loved that they actually treated Ultraman as an enemy through the first half of the show.
The only person I couldn't stand was Nagi, who seemed to be a ***** just for the sake of it.

YES :thumbs:

I actually liked Nagi at the start surprisingly. Yeah, she was a *****. But thanks to her actor, she felt believable and actually had stuff going on inside of her, that I was actually able to forgive her at the start. It also helped that Komon wasn't the guy who always took lip from her. I feel like Nagi was executed far better than a lot of those assholes in some of those Heisei Rider seasons (Kusaka, Hajime, Tendou, Nago, Diend, Ankh, etc). :laugh:
 

Burkion

SLICE
For those comments about the Kaiju Defense teams being useless, that's only true after UltraSeven.

The Ultra Garrison are arguably the single most competent defense team ever in the franchise and I am including Crew GUYS and the Night Raiders.

Many, many episodes involve them saving/assisting Seven as much as he does it for them, and this even continues in the finale. Only rarely are they ever canon fodder, to the point where I can't think of a good example off hand except maybe The Brave One and even then they were instrumental to Seven defeating Crazygon.
 

KingRanger

Banned
Mebius/moebius takes a little to get into, but then it just rocks. It's also one that is more enjoyed if you have seen some of the older series.
 

Shoichi

Lurker
For those comments about the Kaiju Defense teams being useless, that's only true after UltraSeven.

The Ultra Garrison are arguably the single most competent defense team ever in the franchise and I am including Crew GUYS and the Night Raiders.

Many, many episodes involve them saving/assisting Seven as much as he does it for them, and this even continues in the finale. Only rarely are they ever canon fodder, to the point where I can't think of a good example off hand except maybe The Brave One and even then they were instrumental to Seven defeating Crazygon.

well, that's what I said. :laugh: MAT - UGM are mostly cannon fodder with MAC being the worst of the lot.
 
As a die hard Ultra fan, these would be my picks for shows to get into.
You already did "Nexus," which is good.

Ultraman: Not only can you not go wrong with the classic, but it's still one of the best, and now I would consider it one of the most underrated. While it's not brooding and filled with ongoing story arcs, almost every episode is a blast. Tsuburaya shows off its creative muscles here, with a great combination of monsters, scifi, and fun characters that you grow to love. Still the definitive series for me.

Ultraseven: A classic on different terms. The characters are very well established, and you really get some amazing and dramatic moments with Dan. I haven't seen the complete series yet, but every episode I have seen has been brilliant.

Ultraman Tiga: Arguably the best of the Heisei shows, and a great start for people new to the mythos. It combines a lot of the elements of the classic shows, but adds in newer elements to the mix. The final 10 episodes are unbelievably epic, and results in one final showdown between good and evil. Afterwards, try to watch the movie "Neverending Oddyssey," which is also fantastic.

Ultraman Mebius: This is a great show for a beginner to get a crash course on Ultra history. It delves into the mythos without forcing it on you, allowing you to both enjoy it and get even more interested in the classic seasons.

I'd personally start with those.
 

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