KR fights. A bit lame?

Is it just me or does most modern KR fights seem horribly choreographed? Feels like watching drunk hobos brawling.

It really just seems the only reason the kamen rider wins is because they have 'better cg' than the kaijin.

My reasoning is that unlike Super Sentai in which most of the time the rangers have previous fighting experience/skills/magic that allows them to do fine without the suits, most Riders seem to be pretty ordinary dudes pre rider. So it kinda makes sense that in Rider form they are pretty much scrubs in a kick ass suit.

Besides Tendou and the recent Sakamoto KR films, can't really think of many rider's that fight with 'elegance'.

Haven't watched showa rider shows though, do those do it any better?
 
> Sakamoto
> elegance

What'chu talking about?

But yeah, Agito has some really cool fights.
might need to check that out. Haven't watch that or hibiki of heisei.

And idk. Sakamoto stuff does have a nice flow even if the wire work is a bit unnecessary sometime.
 

Matrixbeast

Super Rider
You should watch a real street fight before making comparisons.
Because KR fights are beautiful compared to the hair pulling, windmilling fists, and grappling of the streets.
 

NeonZ

New Member
Besides Tendou and the recent Sakamoto KR films, can't really think of many rider's that fight with 'elegance'.
Most Kabuto Riders aside from Gattack had some pretty obvious fighting styles, not only Tendou.

Haven't watched showa rider shows though, do those do it any better?
Well, they obviously didn't use CG, and most of them didn't have weapons, so you'll get more hand to hand action, but it sounds like you're just looking for martial arts, and, in that case, I don't think you'd find most of them any better. Maybe Super-1 or Black, but that's it.

Most of them are pretty much brawlers. In the early shows, there's even more rough stuff that you won't see in a Heisei series (like grabbing a monster and rolling around the ground or down a hill with it).
 
You should watch a real street fight before making comparisons.
Because KR fights are beautiful compared to the hair pulling, windmilling fists, and grappling of the streets.
That's what I was thinking.

KR feels like a street fight but held back a bit to keep damage to the suits to a minimum.

You don't see much dismemberment of stuff unless the enemy got tentacles.

Would love to see dino OOO's rip a kaijin's head off with his bare hands ;)
 

RaiDK

Supaidaman!
I hadn't likened KR fights to a Street Brawl before, that's a pretty interesting comparison.

Sentai and KR definitely have two different styles when it comes to the fights. I don't think the 'elegance' of Sentai would come across very well in Kamen Rider.

On that comment about older KR being more brutal - Ep 2 of the original series has Rider 1 throwing mooks off a bridge, complete with blood splatters.
 

XenonVincent777

School Days
Kamen Rider fights aren't lame. I think they're entertaining.

But as much as I love Kiva, I thought the fights in that show was pretty lame. Kiva runs up, knees a Fangire and Emperor Form finishes the fight. It felt like most fights were just kneeing some monster in the gut:p

It would be cool if the rider series after OOO had Dragon Knight choreography style battles since I really enjoyed watching the fights in that show.
 

Galaxian

Lurker
I had a problem with the fights on Decade.

At first, after watching Den-O and Kiva, where the main Rider was always running around and attacking the opponent head on, it was a refreshing change of pace since Decade would keep his movements to the minimum, hell he didn't even have a fighting stance. The problem arouse when Diend was introduced, because he fought just like Decade, so the fights pretty much became who could dish out the most attacks or power-ups.

The worse part is that when Diend did actually fought dynamically, he looked awkward.
 

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