Kamen Rider Fourze: The Final Score

pipermae

Member
I see where you're coming from, yeah. But then Yuuki gets a lot more focus and is more important to the story than JK

Oh, definitely. No question about it. Even Kengo acknowledged that in his letter.

I'm actually surprised at how I grew to like her, when I loathed her so much initially.
 

Galaxian

Lurker
I rank it right in the middle. Most of the episodes were ok, some where down right great, but there where a couple that I found boring and when it got annoying, it got really annoying.

I'll give it between a C+ and a B-.
 
I have no score for this. But what I can say is this.

Fourze was okay, its just Gentaro seemed to annoy me in the beginning and it made me wish there was a secondary rider that would teach Gentaro a lesson that he can't make everyone his friends and that friendship was nothing.

Meteor was okay I guess. But he's cool with the Bruce Lee influence in him. But for Jiro, he should've joined the bad guys later on.

Ya know what would've been better for Fourze? If they stop the "one monster in a 2-part episode" trick and start sending out 2 monsters in every 2-part episode! Plus a rider influenced by the zodiarts and act like Chalice! They could've send all those monsters Undead-style.

I was uncomfortable of Ryusei hiding his identity. Too bad someone would've been the first to know his true facade and Aries could've appeared along with Meteor's debut just to watch him behind the scenes.

Plus more episodes than 48! OH YEAH AND.... TACHIBANA SHOULD'VE BEEN UTAHOSHI ROKURO WHO SURVIVED! Emoto could've at least known or didn't. And Sonoda should've stayed!

Emoto could've done both Fourze & Meteor systems, while Rokuro (who should've survived) would've worked on a purified zodiarts rider system.
 
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Aoiblue

Raxbait: Hip
We're doing letter grades now? :laugh:

Uh, let's see...I mean, I didn't really like the show from the get-go (seriously, the acting from Gentarou's actor was still bad throughout the entire series and that bothered me, at least the supporting cast was better). I'd say, there were about 10 or so episodes in the series I did like. Few moments here and there that did make me giggle or be in awe.

But yeah, the comedy here wasn't really good. People complain about the OOO and W comedy, those I really didn't have a problem with, but Fourze was pretty much Go-onger KR ver. I don't think it was executed well overall.

Fourze is probably near the bottom of the list, which kinda bums me out cause it had potential, I just think the comedy was too much. Had they toned it down I think the show would've been better. It needed to have balance like W and OOO. Cause even during the serious moments in the show I had a hard time giving interest :/

So guess I'll give it a D+/C-.


Edit: Also yes, KEITH if YOU can watch FOURZE then you can watch Den-o, my gawd lol.
 

Astraea

Member
I enjoyed the characters and didn't find myself ever bored.

In fact, amusingly enough, I thought the last episode was the weakest in the series. It didn't feel like an ending but just a next stage of the adventure. And, with only a movie or whatever left it kind of just feels blah. Not very satisfactory. Plus I thought the last two fights were a bit too easy for Meteor and Fourze. But it is what it is.

But I give the show a solid A-. It had it's moments of silliness but also had some amazing twists and turns. It kept me entertained and I love all the characters. I'll miss the show and can only hope Wizard keeps me as entertained.
 

Kaji Motomiya

PARTY HARD
I stopped watching Fourze around Libra's/Meteor's debut because I felt the series was just a bit too much for me to take in. WHen I meant too much, I meant it was hard to tolerate. I guess the silliness in it just really turned me off. It sort of picked up when I decided to rewatch it, and Meteor came by, starting a friend/enemy/companion (or friendenemapanion for short) sort of thing, and then started **** in general, kind of picked it up for me.

The series fluctuated with my interests during the three summer days I spent catching up with the series into Pisces' debut. But what won me over were the last two episodes; mainly the crying scenes. A series can win me over if it can make me cry, and those two scenes in both episodes were really heart warming (especially when everyone there started crying). Overall, the ending didn't really sit well with me. I felt something was still missing...

"What happened to those sent to the Dark Nebula? They just left the show for good and that's it?"

I've been thinking about that as episode 47 debuted, and I just wondered if we'll at least catch a glimpse of them again. So I give this a good....hm...probably B, B-.
 

Dark Kabuto

In Justice, We Trust!
I stopped watching Fourze around Libra's/Meteor's debut because I felt the series was just a bit too much for me to take in. WHen I meant too much, I meant it was hard to tolerate. I guess the silliness in it just really turned me off. It sort of picked up when I decided to rewatch it, and Meteor came by, starting a friend/enemy/companion (or friendenemapanion for short) sort of thing, and then started **** in general, kind of picked it up for me.
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I can see that, Yuki's antics became unbearably annoying after awhile, and there was a time were I was more excited for Gobuster then I was Fourze.
 

Clocktower

Member
I liked the series a lot from the beginning. I was a big fan of his more unusual design, the space theme and the over the top sillyness is a bit different for Kamen Rider (at least the past few seasons). I wasn't sure how I'd react to the school setting at first, I imagined it was going to be pretty generic Japanese anime stuff, but I'm glad they really went in a different direction with that.

But as others have said, the second half of the series seemed to fall apart. Meteor's plot dragged out far too long and then when they finally ended that arc, he basically stopped being relevant. His rivalry with Leo could have been great, if it didn't materialize from no where in the last two episodes. I really liked his design as well, until they completely ruined it with his Storm upgrade, which I think was used in every single fight scene from then on. He quickly went from being one of my favourite riders, to someone I didn't care about at all.

I also have to criticize them for using the same plot with the partner/friend character for the third time running and for the fact they just randomly bring him back at the end. I don't mind if they want to include a little melodrama, but what's the point of the big teary farewell, only to have it be a complete fake out? I didn't fall for it for a single second this time and that really hurt the tone of the final episode for me.

Bottom line.. I think there was a lot to like about this series, but the plot felt very rushed and poorly thought out towards the end. If they took advantage of what they had, it could have been a great series. Instead, I'd rate it as merely okay. I don't think it ever became unwatchable, it just could have been so much better with a bit more planning.
 

Terthna

Lurker
Fourze is the worst Kamen Rider I've ever managed to watch all the way to the finale. That's not to say it's the worst I've ever seen (so far that would be Kiva, which I abandoned about the time the Zanvat sword showed up), but the show only just barely managed to keep my attention enough to keep me from dropping it entirely.

What was most irritating to me was the fact that in the latter third of the show you never saw Fourze use any of his switches aside from the ones that form changed, which helped to make the battles more boring and repetitive. Even though, mind you, his final form had that thing where he could combine the effects of various switches, something he only managed to use about half a dozen times before forgetting about it.

I give the show a C-; not bad, but definitely below average.
 

BLASTMATIC

Lurker
Fourze was a mixed bag at first rocking the silly/goof that they had i felt as episode 20 onward maxxed out the heat with good arcs, fun stories and such. The Yuki arc was strong and hard and fun and balanced all at the same time it had all what Fourze can do in the show by the time it came time to do so. My biggest gripe was the ending but i will get to that in a second, the villians were intriging because you didn't know what they really wanted until Gamrou showed his hand and bam, there was the reason and the reveal of Kengo being an alien and such which made sense why he was the way he was. the ending weakened the death of kengo because it was so impactful when it happened, but by the finale it was like meh wtf you brought him back after all that which i can see happening because it woulda made it hard to do in a movie that might not have been time wise and such. Either way the series is a Score of B-, it had fun, goofiness and great action.
 

004Brave

Member
I give it a B. Fourze has a lot of heart, but the story was not all that well. Great opening episodes and impressive final episodes, but that middle part between Meteor' debut and end of ep40 were the series' slow point. The Aries 2 parter were the best out of that middle section.

Also, congrats to the writer of Gurren Lagann and Koichi Sakamoto. For their first Kamen Rider show, they did a good job. I hope to see more of their work!
 

NeonZ

New Member
As a show by itself, Fourze was just "good". It never bored me and left me annoyed, but it also isn't something that I'd chose as my favorite Rider series.

On the other hand, I really like the way they've been handling most of the extra material for it. It's probably the best expanded franchise Rider has done so far, IMO. The Rider universe and movie teases were nice, Megamax was excellent, of course, but even the Hyper Battle Video was amusing, and the Rider Club Quiz extras are pretty fun too.
 

ClimaxHeroDen-O

Ore, Sanjou!
I give it a solid A+. I loved it from start to finish, and it's now tied with Den-O as my favorite series(and my toy collection can attest to that). to me, it so many high notes and had so much that I enjoyed that I barely ever saw things I thought were bad about it. I'm a big fan of the Shonen genre, and this series really captured the hot-blooded, high energy, action-packed nature of Shonen. even then, it had heart and did take itself seriously when it needed to. the heroes were likable, the villains were wicked, and the story worked. it also was great in it's more aesthetic elements as well(music, designs, etc.)

I could go on about more why I enjoyed it, but then it'd probably be on the long side of things.
 

Smilodon

Friendship and the Cosmos.
As a show by itself, Fourze was just "good". It never bored me and left me annoyed, but it also isn't something that I'd chose as my favorite Rider series.

On the other hand, I really like the way they've been handling most of the extra material for it. It's probably the best expanded franchise Rider has done so far, IMO. The Rider universe and movie teases were nice, Megamax was excellent, of course, but even the Hyper Battle Video was amusing, and the Rider Club Quiz extras are pretty fun too.
I'm with Neon on this one. It was very middle of the road for a series that ostensibly looks like a radical departure from previous years.

There were highs and lows but for some reason, I can't really seem to see any production troubles that may have gone on backstage (Or maybe OOO's were just too blatant for anyone to ignore). I hope there is some Hyper hobby article with Tsukada and Nakashima or something that'll just talk about how Fourze developed from start to finish so we can get more insight on Fourze from Pre-Production to the finished product and possibly discover why they handled certain things they way they did.
 

XenonVincent777

School Days
This show was so much fun to watch. The characters were great, the action was over the top and it made me reflect on my high school days in some way.

The best moment for me in this show is when Gentarou made a great comeback by returning from the dead and giving us a great Cosmic Form fight.

I'd give it a B+. The story was kinda cheesy and Kengo returning from the dead felt rushed, and the Horoscopes could've been alot better, but it's a show I'd rewatch again and again.
 
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Dr Kain

Well-Known Member
Fourze is the worst Kamen Rider I've ever managed to watch all the way to the finale. That's not to say it's the worst I've ever seen (so far that would be Kiva, which I abandoned about the time the Zanvat sword showed up), but the show only just barely managed to keep my attention enough to keep me from dropping it entirely.

You must not have seen Decade, Den-O, or Hibiki yet. Kiva is by far one of the best series out there and Fourze is a fantastic show. Not as good as W, but better than OOO (which was really good nonetheless). The best KR series are still Black, Blade, W, and Kiva though. If you want to read my full opinion on Fourze though, go to the other discussion. My final score for it (and do know, I watched this series over the last 8 days, so I was not watching it on a weekly basis) is an 8/10.
 

Solo the Wingman

*smooth jazz*
I've been mulling on this one for a bit, trying to pin down what I liked about Fourze and what I didn't like about Fourze. It's a bit harder to do than I'd like, but not for the usual reasons.

Thinking over it some more, it almost seems like Fourze adhered too rigidly to its tropes and ideas. After episode 20-ish, the two-episode arcs were adhered to so rigidly that it destroyed pacing and consistency of the series. Each characters' stock tropes were played up so much that they became one dimensional caricatures of themselves and all development stopped. (I found Gentaro, himself, in horrible need of some backstory explanation and character development.) To borrow a phrase, it was like the writers strung a bunch of TvTropes pages together and said: "Let's do that."

The Stock Sound Effects are a bit of an indicator of this. Having one set sound effect for every action is well and all, but when those actions are happening simultaneously or in quick succession, and you insist on playing each and every one of those sound effects in turn, it just doesn't work. Had I submitted anything like some of these Fourze episodes I'd have been fired on the spot. I have to wonder what the sound design people were smoking sometimes.

Overall, I think I'm more of a fan of where Fourze started from instead of where it went. The first 13 episodes? Loved it. Everything after that ranges from decently good to just plain bad. I've seen people around here accuse Kobayashi of writing melodrama for the sake of angst... but I really feel that that accusation should be laid at Fourze's feet instead of any of Kobayashi's recent Rider work. So much of the last two episodes exists only for the characters to angst about without any build-up or justification. It kills it for me.

So... I pretty much have to give the show a solid C. It was decent, but only average. Good, but not great. That rating just feels right to me.


Now if only someone would give us a Tomoko Nozama: Goth Detective spin-off*, I'd be a really happy camper.


* Note that I don't want that spin-off because I ogle Tomoko. My wife would pretty much kill me if I did. I just really, really like the character and would like to see more of her.
 

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