Kamen Rider × Kamen Rider Gaim & Wizard The Fateful Sengoku Movie Battle Talk Up

[Toku Prime]

Are there any female Suit Actors on the Kamen Rider staff?

The actress who plays KR Marika in Gaim is also a stunt actor, so she plays the character both in and out of suit. It's her first role as an actual Rider though. Aside from her I believe they still have guys in the suits most of the time, but occasionally they "borrow" female suit actors who more often work on Sentai, like Sanae Hitomi (Geki Yellow, Go-On Yellow, Shinken Pink) or Fusayo Fujita (Akiba Yellow).

 

[BLASTMATIC]

Mitchy has the Blood Orange Lockseed and then never uses it ever again. Onore, Mitchy. Would've made you on par with the other Riders. And that Janomichi on Stage would've been nice juxtaposition to Gaim's Hanamichi on Stage. You could've been useful and used that Lockseed instead of Kiwi. But since you're Zangetsu Shin, now.. welp.


Those stats on Blood Orange though seem totally fake on the wikia. The fact that Ichigo Arms Gaim was kicking Bujin Gaim's ass make it seem implausible, along with the fact that Bujin Double CycloneJokerExtreme would've kicked Bujin Gaim's ass, too.

Unmei no Mikoooooooooooo, kawaiiiiiiiiii. That Nephenthes Inhumanoid reminds of the perverted kaijin with the tongue in the Kakuranger vs Ohranger team-up.

My only gripe with this movie is that Takatora never fully looks at Mitchy when he is untransformed, barely missing him during the teamup with Wizard. And then barely missing him, only seeing Kouta as they leave the Helheim Forest. Grrr.

yeah never trust a wiki-page

 

[Scissors]

Are there any female Suit Actors on the Kamen Rider staff?

You would think there would be, because in some of the interviews with Takaiwa Seiji, there were a few female Suit Actors.

I know Super Sentai has their regular staple of female Suit Actors.

But since the appearance of females in Kamen Rider fluctuates so much, it's hard to tell.

Plus the body size and shape of the curves of White Wizard does look female.

Consider Takaiwa Seiji is relatively average height for a Japanese Man, the female in the suit would be appropriate.

The suit actor for the White Wizard in this movie was male (Satoshi Fujita)
Femme, Larc, Nadeshiko and Marika use/used female actresses.

You can't always judge by the curves. Gokai Yellow (who was a guy) had more curves than Gokai Pink (who was a woman)

 

[Kamen Rider Fourze]

Nope, he didn't even bother to see him transform. The movie takes place just before Hase gets his Driver destroyed on the Beat Riders Arc.

Let's just remember that, at that time, Takatora really didn't care about who was Ryugen (or any of the Beat Rider's brats). Sid tried to show him a picture of Micchy as Ryugen but he tossed away.

I suppose that makes sense. I thought he'd noticed during the sequence where everyone turns into Riders from previous shows. Hell, I thought this took place after the Beat Riders arc but I guess that doesn't make sense.

 

[Dark Kabuto]

I forgot how innocent the first half of Gaim was…back when the only thing they had to worry about was a crazy, flamboyant French baker…aaaah if these poor fools knew what was coming.

Overall, this was an alright movie that became more enjoyable towards the end.

I think my one complaint is that Wizard feels kinda tacked on. His portion of the film feels like filler. While it felt like an episode of Wizard, it definitely sticks out as something that just doesn't belong.

And I do wish that Wizard Arms got a chance to shine because it seems that Kouta forgot he had the thing on. Although i loved the bit where Nitou mistook Kouta for Haruto.

 

[Skiks]

I think my favorite part of the movie was that they gave White Wizard boobs. It's the little details that show the production crew care.

Worst part is that they didn't even try to explain Infinity Dragon Gold. I mean seriously?

Don't forget White Wizard's Heels. :laugh:

 

[KamenRiderUNDERGROUND]

I think my favorite part of the movie was that they gave White Wizard boobs. It's the little details that show the production crew care.

Worst part is that they didn't even try to explain Infinity Dragon Gold. I mean seriously?

Well, ehm, with Koyomi's actress' breast size I doubt it would have mattered...:sweat:

I think there can be two explanations for the appearance of Infinity Dragon Gold rather than just Infinity Dragon when using the Finish Strike Ring:

1. Haruto placed the Hope Ring inside his Underworld. So basically he has the Philosopher's stone inside him so he has evolved.

2. Haruto got the Infinity Ring which belonged to Bujin Wizard from Ieyasu, so maybe that Infinity Ring had slightly different properties (Haruto created his with his own tears, the Bujin don't even have a human form) and caused the slight discrepancy in form.

 

[Guardian07]

Let's just remember that, at that time, Takatora really didn't care about who was Ryugen (or any of the Beat Rider's brats). Sid tried to show him a picture of Micchy as Ryugen but he tossed away.

No, he just didn't know. Takatora would've flipped if at any point he found out that his younger brother became part of their human experiment (and he did flip out and manhandled Sid when he found out). Plus, while he may or may not have saw Mitchi, he must have recognized his voice. The time he transforms and during the fights. In the series, the only reason Takatora didn't find out Mitchi was in the Ryugen armor was that Mitchi was careful to not say anything and give himself away. Long story short, there's no way this would fit in the actual timeline. Not to mention the several additional lockseeds the characters get in this.

So I say don't bother trying to fit this into the show's timeline. I just assume it took place sometime before episode 9, and leave it at that:anime:.

My thoughts on this movie? It was pretty fun. My only major gripe is the abundance of deus ex machinas in this thing(you can make a drinking game out of it, geez...). There are several little things in Wizard's part that I didn't like, but story-wise it was surprisingly well-thought out(though I still don't like Wizard's whole take on "hope" and "despair"). Also, this part highlights the fact that Koyomi and Haruto's relationship was supposed to be a major part of the show. It's kinda bad that the only "Haruto and Koyomi bonding" moment you can get is that one time Haruto took her out and brought her a hat. That scene really needed more stronger, deeper moments of character interaction, and it's a shame the show didn't have them other than that one time in the first five episodes when Haruto took Koyomi out for a "notdate".

Gaim's part was pretty fun too, especially the cameos. The movie had me replaying bits with Zangetsu because it's one of the only times we see Takatora kicking ass in his Melon Arms. I like how the story in Gaim's part is basically trying to make sense of the Warring States era of Japan, and why it had to happen.

I find the final fight kinda weird. They're fighting a giant tree, and...burning it, which is, environmentally speaking, not...good:sweat:. That part of me kind shook its head a little.

 

[Ryousha]

No, he just didn't know. Takatora would've flipped if at any point he found out that his younger brother became part of their human experiment (and he did flip out and manhandled Sid when he found out). Plus, while he may or may not have saw Mitchi, he must have recognized his voice. The time he transforms and during the fights. In the series, the only reason Takatora didn't find out Mitchi was in the Ryugen armor was that Mitchi was careful to not say anything and give himself away. Long story short, there's no way this would fit in the actual timeline. Not to mention the several additional lockseeds the characters get in this.

So I say don't bother trying to fit this into the show's timeline. I just assume it took place sometime before episode 9, and leave it at that:anime:.

My thoughts on this movie? It was pretty fun. My only major gripe is the abundance of deus ex machinas in this thing(you can make a drinking game out of it, geez...). There are several little things in Wizard's part that I didn't like, but story-wise it was surprisingly well-thought out(though I still don't like Wizard's whole take on "hope" and "despair"). Also, this part highlights the fact that Koyomi and Haruto's relationship was supposed to be a major part of the show. It's kinda bad that the only "Haruto and Koyomi bonding" moment you can get is that one time Haruto took her out and brought her a hat. That scene really needed more stronger, deeper moments of character interaction, and it's a shame the show didn't have them other than that one time in the first five episodes when Haruto took Koyomi out for a "notdate".

Gaim's part was pretty fun too, especially the cameos. The movie had me replaying bits with Zangetsu because it's one of the only times we see Takatora kicking ass in his Melon Arms. I like how the story in Gaim's part is basically trying to make sense of the Warring States era of Japan, and why it had to happen.

I find the final fight kinda weird. They're fighting a giant tree, and...burning it, which is, environmentally speaking, not...good:sweat:. That part of me kind shook its head a little.

Voices in Kamen Rider are masked to other people in the show. To the viewer, it's the regular voice.

Otherwise, Mitchy should've known that Takatora was the White Rider. It wasn't only until he screamed out that he was Kureshima that Mitchy confirmed the theory.

Takatora most likely saw a Gaim member, I mean what people don't understand is that Takatora has the current notion that Mitsuzane is doing nightly studying and wouldn't go near "street trash". Also Mitchy's awful clothing is probably a turn off for Takatora that he just glanced at it and then focused back to the task at hand.

So if you let this slide, then it falls perfectly in continuity. I read somewhere that the movie is canon, so that's the only explanation. I'm sure Urobuchi also made the Beat Riders Saga have a gap between Episode 9 to the movie to Episode 10. I mean how else would Mitchy know what the White Armored Rider looked like? He saw him while running away with Kouta in Episode 9.

 

[Undrave]

I think this is my favorite movie war so far! Yes the Wizard part sticks out like a sore thumb, but I liked the 'samurai punk' aesthetic of the Bujin Rider's world! It was pretty nifty and the story held relatively well.

Fights weren't quite as good as I would have liked but there was some fun stuff. Takatora is probaly the worse fit for the Fourze arm hahahaha. That was hilarious.

 

[NeonZ]

No, he just didn't know. Takatora would've flipped if at any point he found out that his younger brother became part of their human experiment (and he did flip out and manhandled Sid when he found out). Plus, while he may or may not have saw Mitchi, he must have recognized his voice. The time he transforms and during the fights.

Takatora didn't recognize Mitchi when he heard his grunts and even a "Shimatta!" when they faced each other in Helheim, so that's not really a big stretch. It's badly done in the movie, but it's not really a continuity mistake.

The movie never states that Takatora knows that Micchy is Ryugen either, so I don't think you can really call it a continuity problem. If he knew about Micchy, I don't think he'd only be focused on not losing Sengoku Drivers. Note that, for example, when Micchy is transforming, Takatora isn't shown in that moment, so he might already have gone forward.

Also, the two relevant lockseeds that they got here were seemingly lost in the final battle (Watermellon and the flying bike). The only oddities are the Rider ones, but even W did things like that, like how the Skull card was never shown in the tv show and Fourze took more than 20 episodes to use Rocket S-1. This movie did show the other Beat Riders team before the tv series though, and even the dance theme used for them here is reused later in the goodbye episode there.

So I say don't bother trying to fit this into the show's timeline. I just assume it took place sometime before episode 9, and leave it at that.

The movie pretty much has to take place between episodes 9 and 10. It's only in episode 9 that Takatora offers himself to test the Genesis Driver.

 

[Undrave]

but occasionally they "borrow" female suit actors who more often work on Sentai, like Sanae Hitomi (Geki Yellow, Go-On Yellow, Shinken Pink) or Fusayo Fujita (Akiba Yellow).

I'm pretty sure Go-On Yellow was a guy and Sanae played Go-On Silver that year.

 

[Guardian07]

Eh, I think you guys are kinda stretching it with the "out of frame" stuff, and I won't believe for a second that Takatora would miss Mitchi in that scene. But fine. It fits okay otherwise.

 

[TheLastBlade]

I thought the subs was gonna make the movie better..... I was wrong :/

Wizard's part was dumb, but Gaim's part was even more dumb AND insane.

 

[RossoEagleBurst]

I'm pretty sure Go-On Yellow was a guy and Sanae played Go-On Silver that year.

Nah, Yellow is Sanae, Silver is Nogawa (Gosei Yellow, Gokai Pink, Kyoryu Pink, ToQ-5)

 

[The Analyzer]

Posting this into the right thread.

I liked the Wizard part very much (Though I was confused about certain things like Shunpei's ring somehow giving them a second body and how much Koyomi was being controlled by the Ogre Phantom) and the Gaim part was interesting, though the writer should have been advised on not accidentally contradicting stuff like Takatora seeing Mitchy. It was weird to see Mitchy being so descent; I was amused with him uttering Double's catchphrase, "Countdown your Sins."

I wonder if there's a Directer's Cut of this movie and Magic Land, since I can't track down any news of such a thing coming.

 

[xSHiNOx]

wizard's part in this movie was better than his wizard x fourze. gaim part was okay as a side story. anyways, what shoes is micchy wearing in the above pic?!

 

[BLASTMATIC]

wizard's part in this movie was better than his wizard x fourze. gaim part was okay as a side story. anyways, what shoes is micchy wearing in the above pic?!

i agree wizard part seems written better and felt like an epilogue to his show/storyline

 

[toni2212]

The Wizard part, as poor as it is, did really served its purpose though. I remember watching the promotional video about the movie where it states about this movie being Wizard's final battle (story-wise). I don't remember if this happens before, but isn't this the first movie where it wasn't blatantly separated into 3 part? It just seems to be Wizard's part before Gaim's part happen and it reaches it's conclusion in Gaim's part. No obvious 'this is the 3rd part where both Rider meet up and team up', the story kinda flows a bit smoothly.

Wow, Nitou kinda fits into Gaim's cast smoothly. Loved his interaction with other Armored Rider in the final battle. Takatora's retort at Fourze's catchphrase is a big kick in the nuts for me. :laugh:

Did Toei asks for Tsuburaya's assistance in the movie? Because the disaster scenes in this really have a touch of Tsuburaya's production such as the tree burning scene, the rooftop destruction scene and the huge tree falling on the house.

I'll just pretend this movie is not related much to Gaim's series, with all the confusion and obvious plothole happening. If this really happen between episode 9 and 10, why did Takatora still used the Sengoku Driver to subdue all Armored Rider in Helheim? Genesis Driver would be much faster to knock them out. Oh man, headaches coming.:castlerock:

 

[NeonZ]

Takatora still used the Sengoku Driver to subdue all Armored Rider in Helheim? Genesis Driver would be much faster to knock them out. Oh man, headaches coming.

They talk about Takatora starting to test the Genesis Driver at the end of episode 9, there's nothing indicating that it was actually ready for combat. Even in the teaser scene of the movie, he's shown putting on the Genesis Driver, but doesn't transform with it. There's nothing indicating that it was actually usable for combat by then. So, Takatora fighting with his Sengoku Driver during this movie and in the tv show isn't a problem. The teaser actually fit perfectly with the line at the end of episode 9 (also, although Ryoma and Yoko were holding their lockseeds, they didn't have Drivers, only Ryoma).

Still, the only continuity of this movie that carries into the show is basically the Beat Rider elements shown in the initial and final scenes.