Juuken Sentai Gekiranger - Talk Up! [Spoilers]

[Filadelfo]

He stopped the punch because he had reached his limit. That's what he says to Rio: "Rio, you're goki-goki (my limit)"

 

[toranoko]

Oh my god, my love for Gekiranger is growing with each new episode. I haven't been this eager for new episodes for any tokusatsu show in a long long time. I don't know what to say about this week's episode, except that it flippin' rocked!! :buttrock:

 

[SaikoDragon]

You didn't expect them to actually kill off the rangers did you?

No, what I expect is for the writers to accept that they will never kill the Gekis and write around that concept. By not having the enemy be so overwhelming to the point where they have to have him walk away from an obvious victory for such a forced reason. It's a tactic thats played out and you see it used every year in some form, you get sick of it. There are other ways to make the enemy retreat without using the boring "enemy walks away" tactic. In their effort to show how much of a bad ass Lio is, they ruined the feeling by just having him walk away. When you watch Sentai, you already accept some truths about how the show works and what to expect. But you ignore them because it's entertaining. When you have a villain that proves he can kill the heroes but doesnt, you make those truths more visible and less able to enjoy.

 

[DiscoInferno]

I don't think it's too big an issue with Gekiranger. Rio wants to get stronger but what use would that strength be if he has no-one to test it on. I might be misremembering the exact order of events here but iirc, it was Sha-Fu's intervention that saved the Geki's lives. It wasn't 'Haha I've kicked your arses! Now, for no reason at all, I'm going to leave' as much as it was 'My current strength far surpasses yours but according to Shaf-Fu, you can get a much stronger power and I want to test myself against it' and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

It's funny though, last season, the Boukenger were pretty much on top of everything the whole season but this year they gone deep into the other direction with the rangers getting shown up in some way in almost every ep.

On another note, I love the way this season is handling the MotDs. when it gets to it, they're all fairly typical MotDs but they've managed to make them feel more special and more threatening than the ones in other recent seasons.

 

[Blackbird]

I see Rio-sama has his own pair of Cylon centurions... :169:

 

[SaikoDragon]

it was Sha-Fu's intervention that saved the Geki's lives

I think it was, but the fact remains that Lio was still the one who stopped them from being killed before Shafu even appeared. My guess is that it was because he "felt" the arrival of Shafu. I just would have liked more emphasis on Shafu being the one who saved them. I was never a fan of villains who have a clear victory and walk away from it, no matter what the excuse. Even back in Magiranger, I hated it.

It was kewl that Boukenger were just on top of it all. I liked the fact that I can't recall a moment in Bouken where the villain was just so overpowered and had to walk away from the battle because the writers had walked themselves into a corner.

Then you had this text book ending where there's rain, everyone is despairing, and the support characters comes and slaps them, says something inspiring and gets them back up. Would have been nice had it actually been raining the entire episode. I hate it when they only bring in weather effects to accentuate a type of emotion.

I do like that they had the sentinels hold the rangers so that Lio would fight them one at a time. Good stuff.

 

[wyyc]

I think it was, but the fact remains that Lio was still the one who stopped them from being killed before Shafu even appeared. My guess is that it was because he "felt" the arrival of Shafu. I just would have liked more emphasis on Shafu being the one who saved them. I was never a fan of villains who have a clear victory and walk away from it, no matter what the excuse. Even back in Magiranger, I hated it.

It was kewl that Boukenger were just on top of it all. I liked the fact that I can't recall a moment in Bouken where the villain was just so overpowered and had to walk away from the battle because the writers had walked themselves into a corner.

Then you had this text book ending where there's rain, everyone is despairing, and the support characters comes and slaps them, says something inspiring and gets them back up. Would have been nice had it actually been raining the entire episode. I hate it when they only bring in weather effects to accentuate a type of emotion.

I do like that they had the sentinels hold the rangers so that Lio would fight them one at a time. Good stuff.

Nope. Nope. To me, he stopped his underlings from killing Shafu because he probably wanted to savor his victory in front of Shafu. He wants to say in Shafu's face, "Haha, I totally owned the Rangers you were so proud of." And then he'd kill them IN FRONT OF Shafu. It's a double insult. First, he's saying that Shafu's powerless to stop him from doing anything, because he can't even stop Rio from killing his own students in front of him. He wants to devastate Shafu. Second, he wants to kill the so-called new generation of GekiJyuKen users in front of Shafu to tell him that GekiJyuKen has no future. Plus, consider this. The Rangers are considered the appetiser, while Shafu is the main course. Rio's mission was to destroy GekiJyuKen, which includes the Rangers, Shafu and the remaining Kensei. So, defeating the Rangers doesn't mean much to him, since defeating Shafu means a whole lot more, especially with the fact that Shafu was his former master. Defeating Shafu is truly defeating GekiJyuKen, since I assume he best represents what GekiJyuKen stands for. So, I really didn't see any problem with the writers. I think they did really well. And like others said, Rio's quest is to be the strongest. He's like a SaiyaJin. Remember that idiot Vegeta? He let Cell become Perfect to test his strength. For Rio, he also wants to test his strength to make sure he's the strongest, and Shafu's words about a new ultimate power naturally piqued his interest. In short, if you didn't get it, Shafu was challenging Rio. He was challenging Rio to face the full force of GekiJyuKen, and Rio's pride as the strongest and as the leader of RinJyuDen made him accept. As a result, the Rangers lived. The end.

Rain is good. It shows that they sat there long enough that it started raining. Or the writers were just trying to show what season it was in Japan.

Miki's tough love was beautiful though. And the Rangers acted well. The whole RinJyuKen ceremony was cool in a creepy way. The final staredown between Rio and Shafu was awesome. Shafu has a very powerful presence, and Rio's actor has improved to the point that he also has a strong on-screen presence. I think that the writers made the Rangers face Rio one-on-one to show the weakness of their "triangle". When they fight as a team, they are very strong. But broken up, their weaknesses lead to their downfall. Thus, while the Rangers should specialise in one area, they have to strengthen themselves in the other 2 aspects too. Together, they should be very strong, but broken up, they should be able to hold their own too. This is the whole point of the training next week. Kageki requires a Ranger to be strong in all 3 areas. So far, the Rangers have been very complacent and naive, and that lead to their resounding defeat. I hope the writers will use this in the plot for future episodes. The Rangers are maturing, and I'm very excited to see how this develops.

And I prefer Rangers struggling to the Boukengers not needing effort at all. It felt like all they did was play around in headquarters and go out for hide and seek. The GekiRangers on the other hand had one nice scene this ep, where they return to base to relax after an intense battle with a monster. Somehow, I like scenes like those.

Edit: I'm glad I continued watching this show despite my initial prejudice. The first 2 eps were less than spectacular, but the rest more than made up for it. God. Just look at how much I've written this post to see how much I love the show. It'd better not disappoint me like Kabuto last year.

 

[SaikoDragon]

Rain is good. It shows that they sat there long enough that it started raining.

Yes, how convenient that the weather forecast called for rain at exactly that same day, at that specific time. It's silly, it's a cheap writing tactic to get the most out of a scene. "oh they are despairing so lets have it rain, only at this time of day, at this moment in time."

If it were me, had I been the one writing the ep, I would have had it raining the entire episode. Just so the weather didn't feel so sudden and convenient. Besides, a battle against Lio in the rain would have been much kewler.

(again, good episode. Just giving another perspective. I cant choose to point out cons in an episode if I wish to. Normally I dont have to say this but sometimes it feels like it's such a big "no" to complain about anything. Heaven forbid, right?)

 

[Rider Strike]

New GekiRanger RPG

http://forums.henshinjustice.net/showthread.php?t=16319

 

[Synch]

oh my the smacking of the face was funny I sort of forgot about that they all got biatch smacked hilarity