Do any Rider or Sentai Team stand a chance against Ultra Kaiju

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Okay, I have been reading a recent thread discussing which was more dangerous, Rider kaijin or Sentai monsters, and some people posted that Ultra Kaiju were more dangerous, I got to thinking, if given the opportunity, would any Rider or Sentai team have any chance against the Ultra's rogues gallery of Kaiju.
 
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I guess some Rider Ultimate forms can probably beat a few.

At least some of the wimpier Ultra villains like Red King (Ultraman killed one without any special attacks. He just used the Specium Ray on Red King's rock, but not Red King Himself) or Valkie (killed by Kotaro without transforming.)
 
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Depends on the monsters and the heroes fighting them.

We are spotting the Sentai teams their mechs right? Not that that'd help most of them considering the dangerous Ultra Monsters are used to fighting far, far more agile and fast enemies.
 
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Not to mention sentai mecha are very light weight compared to Tsubaraya's monsters. Their mecha tend to weigh in at hundreds of tons while Ultra kaiju are always in the 10,000s and in some cases 100,000s of tons. So yeah, close combat wise they are very out classed, unless they have a very powerful attack like Aquarion's mugen punch. Then again Aquarion could take on the entire NGE cast single handedly if given access to all of its vectors, so that probably is not the best comparison.:laugh:
 
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You know, Zetton, regular old Zetton, would be a nightmare for most Sentai teams.

Dude teleports, has an energy shield, AND can absorb big finishers and redirect them.
 
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Guys, there's plenty of Riders, Sentai, and the kaijin from both series that can hold on their own against Ultramen, Ultra Kaiju, and even Godzilla kaiju. Wizard All-Dragon kicked Phoenix into the sun, the Changeman team managed to defeat a planet devouring monster, Big Machine is probably bigger than any Godzilla kaiju out there, Dogold and several other human sized villains have managed to destroy entire buildings. I can keep on listing more examples if needed (though I really don't want to). I got a load of them.

So don't be selling them short. They can rumble with the big boys too. ;)
 
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Considering Ultimate Kuuga's kick could destroy a planet...I think he could take out just about anything, given that he's willing to ignore the collateral damage.

I'm only knowledgeable about Rider though, at this point. So maybe the Ultra Kaiju are just really, really strong and even that isn't enough to stop them. Are they like...Godzilla-strong, or late-series-Gurren-Lagaan-strong?

If they're only Godzilla-strong then W Gold Extreme, Shining Agito, and Hyper Kabuto could definitely do the trick.
 
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Guys, there's plenty of Riders, Sentai, and the kaijin from both series that can hold on their own against Ultramen, Ultra Kaiju, and even Godzilla kaiju. Wizard All-Dragon kicked Phoenix into the sun, the Changeman team managed to defeat a planet devouring monster, Big Machine is probably bigger than any Godzilla kaiju out there, Dogold and several other human sized villains have managed to destroy entire buildings. I can keep on listing more examples if needed (though I really don't want to). I got a load of them.

So don't be selling them short. They can rumble with the big boys too. ;)

Especially since humans have proven that they can defeat Ultra Monsters on their own.
 
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It can alledgedly destroy planets.

Not that you'd know that from FUCKING RISING ULTIMATE. **** that form so hard.

Here's how it breaks down.

Most Ultra Kaiju, on their own, are about Godzilla level or weaker. Hell, the original Ultraman fought what amounted to Showa Godzilla with a neck frill, and killed him rather easily. And honestly, that's about how powerful Ultraman is. Powerful enough that he just outclasses Godzilla entirely.

Gurren Lagaan is a shitty comparison because it's an anime, and they can take liberties with things that Kamen Rider and Ultraman can't. However it's not too far off for a comparison because Ultras are solar powered energy beings that can survive, and thrive, in stars and are able to throw down with the worst creatures around.


The top of the list of the most powerful Ultra villains would have to be Enpera, who was so powerful he could cover the Sun in a strange stone, and him simply *ARRIVING* on Earth made an entire city go boom.

Then we have Belial, who took on almost all of the old school Ultras and beat them hand to hand, most of them standing no chance against him.

Then we have Hyper Zetton who is *LITERALLY* a DBZ character with his insane teleportation and everything else.


But if you want to look at Ultras, you have two that stand above every single threat shown.

Ultraman King, who is basically a God that can create miracles, and defeated Belial with a literal wave of his hand, trapping him inside of a moon *THAT HE CREATED IN THAT MOMENT WITH THE SAME HAND WAVE*.

And Ultraman Noa, who *IS* a God, that punched some one so hard they went into space.


The Ultra Verse just generally out classes Sentai and Kamen Rider.
 
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Not technically a sentai team, but maybe Daizinryu (Or however you romanize it) from Dairanger? I mean, I realize we're comparing apples and oranges (Like when you get the enterprise vs the deathstar argument) but since height and weight seem to be a factor, Daizinryu was HUGE. Granted, I've only seen the original ultraman, and the old dub of Tiga, so I'm not that familiar with the power levels we'd be dealing with there.
 
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