Chou Sei Kantai Sazer X - Talk Up! [Fansub Spoilers!!!]

Kyusaku

Member
Blue said:
Wait...is that a power up or an evil Lio Sazer?

From what NeoDescal says to Takuto in ep 34 I think it's probably a powerup. There's a quality about the suit which you can easily make a reference to what NeoDescal talks about.

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I gave up reading the scan because I couldn't make sense out of most of it. Mainly because of ep 35 and ep 36 spoilers that are part of the plot. I'm checking 2ch's spoiler thread to get an idea.
 
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Kyusaku

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Blue said:


That's the same pic that was on cowspot. I found the spoiler thread on 2ch and read through the spoiler for 37 and it talks about NeoDescal's latest weapon something called Dark Gran. Supposedly this Black Lio pic is from ep 37. Dark Gran appears in ep 36 or 35 originally and uses Lion 1 as a power source. I'm gonna read up the 35 and 36 spoilers when I get home tonight to get a better idea of what's going on in the story at that point.
 

SaikoDragon

It's Judgement Time!
Watched up to 33. Im fed up. Blaird is shafted AGAIN. He's meaningless. Why is it Takuto who has the heartfelt "I believe" talk to Aqual? Aqual is Blairds good friend. Why does it have to be Takuto who is the heartfelt hero this time? I mean **** Blaird is standing right there not doing a thing and essentially being worthless in the episode again.

Of all the freaking times that Blaird could be used appropriately, now would have been the perfect time. Blaird should have been the one who had the heartfelt talk to Aqual. It doesnt always have to be Takuto. I mean dammit.

This was a chance for Blaird to show some depth and have some real purpose in the episode and the series. Cause lately he's been running around with no purpose. The writers dropped the ball with Blaird. They dropped the effing ball...

It doesnt make sense that Takuto be the one to talk to Aqual. It should have been Blaird. But no hes reduced to standing on the side saying "Oi, er, uh, ah, but, oi, er, uh, er, uh, dur"

Or how about having Blaird stand up for HIS friends sometime. Instead of having him stand on the sidelines watching Takuto and Aqual fight or Takuto and Cyclead, how about he get in there himself and break it up, defend his old friends and try to resolve things his way.

Man the writers are retarded. They dropped the ball on Thundera now this. Blaird got shafted bad in this series.
 

SaikoDragon

It's Judgement Time!
and now episode 34... surprise surprise LOOK WHO'S SHAFTED AGAIN! These writers suck. Blaird had so much potential, I think it's safe to assume it's wasted. There's no hope for the character now. I just wish Blaird had a serious moment. Just once, something that shows a bit more to him than relentless stupidity.
 

Kyusaku

Member
The trio gets some focus in ep 35, especially Aqual. Blaird doesn't really need any character development anymore. He's as developed as Takuto is. He's already dealt with the loss of Thundera, the loss of Jackall, and having to deal with fighting his closest friend. He's rarely a serious character but he's had all the moments he's needed really. If you're gonna focus on one of the trio it should be Aqual, she's been in the worst condition ever since NeoDescal used that mind altering device on Cyclead. She needs to vent, and needs help.
 

SaikoDragon

It's Judgement Time!
Dealt with the loss of Thundera? Lol you mean he comedically gets ignored and gets laughed at. Wow, that's really dealing. Blaird didnt get ANY proper focus during the Thundera arc at ALL. Every moment he had that began serious ended as a joke, ruining his integrity. The loss of Jackall was probably the only real character defining moment since the episode he discovered his boss was a robot.

He hasnt had any moments since Jackall and he's due for one. Aqual?? AQUAL?? AQUAL GETS FOCUS IN ALMOST EVERY EPISODE!!! She gets more development than most of the characters on the show as does Cyclead! I mean come the **** ON.

Blaird is no where NEAR developed as Takuto. I can easily name a handful of key moments for Takuto, Blaird has only 3 at MOST... AT FREAKING MOST.

The rest of his pathetic life has been utter comedy.

True, in the beginning I loved it but enough is enough. Let the man have ONE serious moment. 33 and 34 should have been key moments for Blaird. And he was written off to the side lines. Takuto steals the effing show again and he didnt even need to. Blaird was perfect for this spot. All I ask is one moment where Blaird is serious, has a little depth, and doesnt turn into a joke at the end of the scene. Just one freaking moment and it looks like that will never come.

Let's go a step further. Take out Blaird of episode 33 and 34 and what happens. NOTHING! Because the entire set up doesnt use Blaird at ALL! You could take him out completely and nothing CHANGES! It's pathetic writing at best.

The writers are closed minded, they apparently refuse to utilize their other characters outside of the core main cast.

Aqual does need to vent and does need help. And notice how the writers have her going to Blaird for that venting and for that help. Lately she goes to Blaird, picks a fight, but you can tell she wants to get things off her chest. She wants someone to talk to. But then apparently the writers smoke crack and forget what they were writing, and suddenly have Takuto be the little pimp daddy of the scene. heaven fucking forbid Blaird get one freaking moment in the spot light.

33 and 34 would have been the PERFECT setup for Aqual's future "vent" and "help" by establishing a safe haven with Blaird. They were friends, it only makes freaking sense that it should have been Blaird that had all the serious moments and talks with Aqual. Hes her freaking FRIEND! He's supposed to be the one who is there for her when she needs HELP!

Blaird doesnt need anymore development? BULL ****. He might not need development, no, but he needs one fucking serious moment of depth to help round off the character. Define him a little more. Solidify his persona. Cause Im sick of how he's being treated by the writers right now.

He's nothing more than a freaking joke apparently and it was cute at first but enough is enough. There are times for comedy and times for drama. 33 and 34 were those times for Blaird. And the writers apparently felt that Blaird doesnt deserve any moment... ever.

He had no moment with Thundera. I wanted him to have a moment with Thundera. But no, every freaking scene he had with Thundera turned into a cruel fucking joke. And I didnt laugh. Every cute little scene where we all laugh at Blairds pain or how he got ignored. I didnt laugh. I felt sorry for him because WTF. Takuto stole his girl (that asshole) and the girl ignores Blaird completely. It was annoying and he never got one moment from it. It was all jokes and "lets laugh at his pain".. Well this psycho didnt laugh.

You're not going to convince me this is good writing. It's **** writing on Blaird's behalf. He deserved better than this. I'm not saying he should have been a 24.7 serious bad ass, keep his comedy. Hes a good comedic character but give him some fucking moments. Let him be serious when it's appropriate. Dont ruin a good fucking moment with relentless stupidity. GAH.

But its hopeless. I have no hope anymore I give up. Its episode 34 now and if Blairds moment doesnt come now it never will...

I mean look at it this way:

33 - should have had it with Takuto wanting to talk things out but doubting. Blaird should have been the one to have the talks with Aqual, serious talks. Takuto mistakes something for a hostility and attacks Aqual or gets the wrong idea. Doesnt fully trust her. Blaird says something to help Takuto understand. Yadda. At the end you have them getting tied up and Aqual about to slash em. Takuto is pretty much lost all hope. It should have been Blaird who did the whole "I believe" and crap.

34 - Blaird should have been the one to suggest aqual missed on purpose. Why the **** would Blaird doubt Aqual? God dammit... In fact it should have had Takuto be angry at Aqual and mistunderstand. Blaird defends her, lets her get away to safety, a little tussle amongst them. Blaird says something meaningful again, a joke or two in there. Then have Takuto find Aqual and work things out that way and come to an understanding.

I mean and the fact that Blaird sits there and does nothing to defend his friends or act important to the scenario at all... it's terrible. Had to deal with fighting his comrads, he's practically had any moment that has shown us the reprecussions he's gone through by fighting his own friends.

He hasnt had one serious effing moment since Jackall and even that was kind of stupid if you ask me. Jackal was all big and bad "I hate you shark" "I know Jackall". It was a big Tommy and Zeltrax shtick that was sort of pointless then Jackall dies which also seemed weird and abrupt. Sad, but ****. At least Blaird got a moment out of it.
 

Kyusaku

Member
Wow d00d something is really wrong with you bro. You're taking this waaaay too far. Blaird is and has always been a more lighthearted character. He's had short simple moments that show what I mentioned before.

It's not the whole episode about him because he's not the main character, he's become a side character like Shark. There are whole eps where you see like 1 minute of Shark who is suppose to be the commander of the team? I don't see how Blaird deserves more attention.

Besides as Shougo has stated many times, J-Stunts are terrible suit actors, why flaunt it? I think they've focused on him just fine. When Thundera left, there were scenes where you see him with her shamisen and staring into the lake. Blaird buried Jackall, a man who took him in even though they had been enemies at one point. I've dealt with a few deaths in my life and I know how difficult something like that can be.

This isn't Chousei Kantai Daisan Shougun chill out or stop watching, the franchise is over be happy you don't have to deal with something you think is crap.
 

SaikoDragon

It's Judgement Time!
Kyusaku said:
Blaird is and has always been a more lighthearted character. He's had short simple moments that show what I mentioned before.

He hasnt. He's had maybe 3 good, serious moments at best. All others were turned into jokes.

I like Blaird as a light hearted character but you need to understand that there are moments that BEG for Blaird to get a serious moment. JUST ONE. Im not asking for more than 2 minutes of serious time from Blaird. And it's not Blaird. Sometimes he is trying to be serious and the scenario turns it into a one big joke.

Jokes and comedy are great but give Blaird one or two serious moments when it really counts. 33 and 34 was where it counted.

Kyusaku said:
It's not the whole episode about him because he's not the main character,

He's in every episode, he practically is a main character. But I'm not asking for him to be given an entire episode. No, I'm asking for some good writing that involves him in the episode. That makes him important to the episode. That's all I ask, is one serious moment that makes his existance worth a damn. Takuto shouldnt have been the one to have that damned talk with Aqual. It felt akward. Blaird should have had at least one moment with Aqual to have a serious talk but he didnt get ****.

Kyusaku said:
There are whole eps where you see like 1 minute of Shark who is suppose to be the commander of the team? I don't see how Blaird deserves more attention.

Im not asking for Blaird to have anymore attention than Shark (though he HAS had more attention, just of the comedic kind.). But look at Shark. He's a side character and he gets to have GREAT IMPORTANCE ON THE DAMNED STORY! Your point PROVES MY ENTIRE RANT! >_<

Shark has less scenes than Blaird, but is more important and has many serious moments and character defining moments. He has great interaction with the cast and the characters play well with Captain Shark. They grow through their experience with him.

Blaird didnt get that did he. Im not asking any more than a couple, 2 minute, serious moments from the writers with Blaird. Look at episodes 33 and 34. Take Blaird out. Do it, what changed? NOTHING. The entire two episodes could have been done without Blaird. His existance is POINTLESS thanks to the writers.

You cant say he's not a main character or not important. He freaking started off as one of the main bad guys. He IS important and should be treated with some damned dignity and integrity and the writers show him none.

Is it so freaking much that I ask Blaird have a serious moment in an episode that practically BEGS FOR HIM TO? What Im asking doesnt drastically change the set up of the story or plot. It fits in with it PERFECTLY. Thats why Im pissed.

You have a great moment that begs for Blaird to get involved seriously and the writers **** it up.

Blaird is a great character, he's had a lot of little, tiny moments of character defining and growth. Understanding and he's continually shafted where it truly counts. Episodes 33 and 34 were a hard blow to the character's importance to the series.

Kyusaku said:
Besides as Shougo has stated many times, J-Stunts are terrible suit actors, why flaunt it?

I wouldn't agree. I think the Three Shogun suit actors have done a great job. Not perfect but especially Blaird, Aqual, and Cyclead. They are good actors and Blaird has shown a lot of great moments for being a suit. If they were given the right opportunity they could shine.

Kyusaku said:
When Thundera left, there were scenes where you see him with her shamisen and staring into the lake. Blaird buried Jackall, a man who took him in even though they had been enemies at one point.

1) Turned into a fucking joke. Doesnt count. He never got proper focus on the loss of Thundera. The entire thing was a cruel joke at the expense of Blaird.

2) One of the only few good moments of Blaird. Few. That doesnt mean that he didnt deserve another moment with Aqual in episode 33 and 34.

It's not much to ask that Blaird get decent treatment as a character. All I'm saying is he deserved a moment in these two episodes. That's it. Just a freaking Moment. Im not saying they should have based the ENTIRE episodes around him and only him. Just switch around the roles. Let Blaird have that important "I believe" **** talk with Aqual. Why the **** did it have to be Takuto? Explain that to me. Why wouldnt Blaird have been the better choice?

They are shoguns, Aqual is a shogun having trouble and help. Who the hell would YOU suggest be the one to talk to her and help her? Not fucking Takuto. Blaird should be the one. And he was tossed to the side as a comedic bafoon.

Huzzah!

Kyusaku said:
the franchise is over be happy you don't have to deal with something you think is crap.

Why? That's fucking unfair to throw that at me when Im not even saying the series Sazer-X is crap. I like Sazer-X. I think it's better than Justirisers. Im just saying I wish Blaird got more moments to shine. That's all. Why do you have to turn this into an ugly thing of "omg if you hate it so much rejoice you asshole". I dont hate the series. Im even more upset that this is the only season we will see Blaird and the writers are wasting good opportunities with the character.

I made no mention that I hated the entire series or franchise, ever. And I'll thank you not to throw that at my face again as I've been a huge supporter and lover of the Sazer franchise from the beginning.
 
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Kyusaku

Member
GrnPsychoGarren said:
You cant say he's not a main character or not important. He freaking started off as one of the main bad guys. He IS important and should be treated with some damned dignity and integrity and the writers show him none.

He STARTED off as one of the main villians, but now he's no longer a threat and purely sticks around so he can be reunited with his allies so they can return home to space.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
Is it so freaking much that I ask Blaird have a serious moment in an episode that practically BEGS FOR HIM TO? What Im asking doesnt drastically change the set up of the story or plot. It fits in with it PERFECTLY. Thats why Im pissed.

If it draws away from the main hero, Takuto, yes it's asking too much. I mainly believe this because the series has been cut down to 38 episodes. Ever since NeoDescal has shown up, there have been a lot of things rushed in the story and production wise.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
You have a great moment that begs for Blaird to get involved seriously and the writers **** it up.

Insulting the writers is one of my main reasons I suggested that perhaps you don't like the series. If I don't like the writing, I usually don't like the show. Like Hikaru no Go, I hated the writing in that series.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
Blaird is a great character, he's had a lot of little, tiny moments of character defining and growth. Understanding and he's continually shafted where it truly counts. Episodes 33 and 34 were a hard blow to the character's importance to the series.

I disagree, I believe he has been given as much time as needed to be able to wrap the story up by ep 38. At the end of the Thundera episode where she leaves, there's the end moment where Blaird is sitting by the lake and Takuto talks to him. If you don't listen to the language they speak, there's a little nod to her because of her accent.


GrnPsychoGarren said:
I wouldn't agree. I think the Three Shogun suit actors have done a great job. Not perfect but especially Blaird, Aqual, and Cyclead. They are good actors and Blaird has shown a lot of great moments for being a suit. If they were given the right opportunity they could shine.

If they're onscreen long enough you see their acting get seriously out of sync with the dialogue, you will definitely notice this in 35 when Blaird and Aqual are talking to each other at the table in Takuto's house. This is why they try to change the camera angles as often as they can, so this is not as noticable to the audience. They're honestly not very good with the suit acting, I was hoping to defend this quality, saying they have improved a lot, but then I realized the camera tricks they used to try and avoid this quality in being detectable.


GrnPsychoGarren said:
It's not much to ask that Blaird get decent treatment as a character. All I'm saying is he deserved a moment in these two episodes. That's it. Just a freaking Moment. Im not saying they should have based the ENTIRE episodes around him and only him. Just switch around the roles. Let Blaird have that important "I believe" **** talk with Aqual. Why the **** did it have to be Takuto? Explain that to me. Why wouldnt Blaird have been the better choice?

Because in that episode or the episode before Takuto had the character development for him to trust people. And that development would seriously go to waste as being pointless if they didn't make good use of it in the little time they have left to develop Takuto.


GrnPsychoGarren said:
Why? That's fucking unfair to throw that at me when Im not even saying the series Sazer-X is crap. I like Sazer-X. I think it's better than Justirisers. Im just saying I wish Blaird got more moments to shine. That's all. Why do you have to turn this into an ugly thing of "omg if you hate it so much rejoice you asshole". I dont hate the series. Im even more upset that this is the only season we will see Blaird and the writers are wasting good opportunities with the character.

I made no mention that I hated the entire series or franchise, ever. And I'll thank you not to throw that at my face again as I've been a huge supporter and lover of the Sazer franchise from the beginning.

You stated that the writers are terrible, you have posted a few times your dislike in the direction of the story and characters. When I hate the writers of a series, I'm probably gonna hate the show because I feel everything they produce is crap. The show is coming to a short end at episode 38, and they're trying to complete the story as quickly as they can. They've really cut down on the henchmen, and the kaiju, hell they even reused a kaiju from Justirisers and even gave him the same name. They're really on a short amount of time, and they're really trying to get the story finished up as soon as possible.

Gransazers had a full 50 episodes to flesh out its characters and couldn't do it. Sazer X has about 38 and hasn't fleshed out its main characters, not to mention laying waste to monster of the weeks that could've been a decent advesary, like Ultimate. He had the potential to last at least in 2 episodes using his ability to absorb elements and use them against the Sazer X crew, but Ultimate lasted a whole 3 minutes or so, what a waste. Then there was Megarion that they brought back from Justirisers, when I saw that kaiju I was like "WTF? That kaiju was featured like twice in Justirisers and even has the same name!" They really cut down on production and are trying to get the story completed as soon as possible, which is why there have been a big lack of fights and much more focus on story.
 

Kyusaku

Member
GrnPsychoGarren said:
You cant say he's not a main character or not important. He freaking started off as one of the main bad guys. He IS important and should be treated with some damned dignity and integrity and the writers show him none.

He STARTED off as one of the main villians, but now he's no longer a threat and purely sticks around so he can be reunited with his allies so they can return home to space.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
Is it so freaking much that I ask Blaird have a serious moment in an episode that practically BEGS FOR HIM TO? What Im asking doesnt drastically change the set up of the story or plot. It fits in with it PERFECTLY. Thats why Im pissed.

If it draws away from the main hero, Takuto, yes it's asking too much. I mainly believe this because the series has been cut down to 38 episodes. Ever since NeoDescal has shown up, there have been a lot of things rushed in the story and production wise.
GrnPsychoGarren said:
You have a great moment that begs for Blaird to get involved seriously and the writers **** it up.

Insulting the writers is one of my main reasons I suggested that perhaps you don't like the series. If I don't like the writing, I usually don't like the show. Like Hikaru no Go, I hated the writing in that series.
GrnPsychoGarren said:
Blaird is a great character, he's had a lot of little, tiny moments of character defining and growth. Understanding and he's continually shafted where it truly counts. Episodes 33 and 34 were a hard blow to the character's importance to the series.

I disagree, I believe he has been given as much time as needed to be able to wrap the story up by ep 38. At the end of the Thundera episode where she leaves, there's the end moment where Blaird is sitting by the lake and Takuto talks to him. If you don't listen to the language they speak, there's a little nod to her because of her accent.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
I wouldn't agree. I think the Three Shogun suit actors have done a great job. Not perfect but especially Blaird, Aqual, and Cyclead. They are good actors and Blaird has shown a lot of great moments for being a suit. If they were given the right opportunity they could shine.

If they're onscreen long enough you see their acting get seriously out of sync with the dialogue, you will definitely notice this in 35 when Blaird and Aqual are talking to each other at the table in Takuto's house. This is why they try to change the camera angles as often as they can, so this is not as noticable to the audience. They're honestly not very good with the suit acting, I was hoping to defend this quality, saying they have improved a lot, but then I realized the camera tricks they used to try and avoid this quality in being detectable.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
It's not much to ask that Blaird get decent treatment as a character. All I'm saying is he deserved a moment in these two episodes. That's it. Just a freaking Moment. Im not saying they should have based the ENTIRE episodes around him and only him. Just switch around the roles. Let Blaird have that important "I believe" **** talk with Aqual. Why the **** did it have to be Takuto? Explain that to me. Why wouldnt Blaird have been the better choice?.

Because in that episode or the episode before Takuto had the character development for him to trust people. And that development would seriously go to waste as being pointless if they didn't make good use of it in the little time they have left to develop Takuto.

GrnPsychoGarren said:
Why? That's fucking unfair to throw that at me when Im not even saying the series Sazer-X is crap. I like Sazer-X. I think it's better than Justirisers. Im just saying I wish Blaird got more moments to shine. That's all. Why do you have to turn this into an ugly thing of "omg if you hate it so much rejoice you asshole". I dont hate the series. Im even more upset that this is the only season we will see Blaird and the writers are wasting good opportunities with the character.

I made no mention that I hated the entire series or franchise, ever. And I'll thank you not to throw that at my face again as I've been a huge supporter and lover of the Sazer franchise from the beginning.

You stated that the writers are terrible, you have posted a few times your dislike in the direction of the story and characters. When I hate the writers of a series, I'm probably gonna hate the show because I feel everything they produce is crap. The show is coming to a short end at episode 38, and they're trying to complete the story as quickly as they can. They've really cut down on the henchmen, and the kaiju, hell they even reused a kaiju from Justirisers and even gave him the same name. They're really on a short amount of time, and they're really trying to get the story finished up as soon as possible.

Gransazers had a full 50 episodes to flesh out its characters and couldn't do it. Sazer X has about 38 and hasn't fleshed out its main characters, not to mention laying waste to monster of the weeks that could've been a decent advesary, like Ultimate. He had the potential to last at least in 2 episodes using his ability to absorb elements and use them against the Sazer X crew, but Ultimate lasted a whole 3 minutes or so, what a waste. Then there was Megarion that they brought back from Justirisers, when I saw that kaiju I was like "WTF? That kaiju was featured like twice in Justirisers and even has the same name!" They really cut down on production and are trying to get the story completed as soon as possible, which is why there have been a big lack of fights and much more focus on story.
 

SaikoDragon

It's Judgement Time!
Kyusaku said:
You stated that the writers are terrible, you have posted a few times your dislike in the direction of the story and characters.

I said I didnt like the writers direction of Blaird. Show me posts where I make huge cases about all characters of the show. I dont because Im generally happy with the rest of the show. I'm just dissapointed in Blaird's case because they DID start something wonderful and the writers opened a door of opportunity for the character then slammed it in his face.

And you say the show should always focus on Takuto but that's a laugh. I can point to you over a dozen times where the focus of the episode is NOT ON TAKUTO! And Im not asking for the focus to be on Blaird. I'm saying there should have been ONE MOMENT (1 minute even! just 1 minute! OR EVEN 30 SECONDS! See? Im compromising for Takuto) where he was SERIOUS with AQUAL without JOKES. Where HE WAS THE ONE helping and being a friend to Aqual. JUST ONE MOENT OUT OF BOTH 20 MINUTE EPISODES.

You see? There would still be 19 minutes and 30 seconds for Takuto to learn his precious trust lesson and be the main hero of the show. Giving Blaird a tiny break from the comedy would seriously have helped 33 and 34s plot and Blaird as a character.

And I dont care what you want to believe I love Sazer-X despite my words to the writers. I think they did drop the ball with Blaird. That doesnt mean I hate all their decisions.
 

Kyusaku

Member
GrnPsychoGarren said:
I said I didnt like the writers direction of Blaird. Show me posts where I make huge cases about all characters of the show. I dont because Im generally happy with the rest of the show. I'm just dissapointed in Blaird's case because they DID start something wonderful and the writers opened a door of opportunity for the character then slammed it in his face.

And you say the show should always focus on Takuto but that's a laugh. I can point to you over a dozen times where the focus of the episode is NOT ON TAKUTO! And Im not asking for the focus to be on Blaird. I'm saying there should have been ONE MOMENT (1 minute even! just 1 minute! OR EVEN 30 SECONDS! See? Im compromising for Takuto) where he was SERIOUS with AQUAL without JOKES. Where HE WAS THE ONE helping and being a friend to Aqual. JUST ONE MOENT OUT OF BOTH 20 MINUTE EPISODES.

You see? There would still be 19 minutes and 30 seconds for Takuto to learn his precious trust lesson and be the main hero of the show. Giving Blaird a tiny break from the comedy would seriously have helped 33 and 34s plot and Blaird as a character.

And I dont care what you want to believe I love Sazer-X despite my words to the writers. I think they did drop the ball with Blaird. That doesnt mean I hate all their decisions.

Like I said before, they don't have enough time anymore. They did when the series started but since it has been cut short by 12-13 episodes, they can't focus on any secondary characters anymore. Which is why Takuto has been the main center ever since NeoDescal came from the future. They had to cut down the scripts. Which is why a lot of good henchmen are going to waste and they had to use old Justirisers kaiju.
 

kyo28

Member
Just got back from holiday so I need to catch up on my series. Sazer-X is on top of the list, of course, and I'm really pumped for the Seishin series finale.
Also bought the Seishin movie, which I'll be watching as soon as I have enough time.
 
Kyusaku said:
Like I said before, they don't have enough time anymore. They did when the series started but since it has been cut short by 12-13 episodes, they can't focus on any secondary characters anymore. Which is why Takuto has been the main center ever since NeoDescal came from the future. They had to cut down the scripts. Which is why a lot of good henchmen are going to waste and they had to use old Justirisers kaiju.

So the show was really cut by 12/13 episodes and not planned to end at 38?
 

Kyusaku

Member
Sage Shinigami said:
So the show was really cut by 12/13 episodes and not planned to end at 38?

From the looks of how the series has progressed since X-Day, it's been extremely rushed. What most likely happened was that the movie's box office sales were probably expected to help pay for the series. But the movie didn't do that well in the box office. When it premiered it was #5 movie in box office, but quickly dropped afterwards. After TOHO saw they were in the red with the series, they probably sold off the timeslot for the last quarter of the series if they did originally contract for 50 or so episodes. Since ending in July will make it just in time for the new season. Either that or just didn't renew the timeslot contract for July.

Ever since after X-day, there's some reuse of previous series kaiju, like Megarion. The fights become very mimimal to give more time for Takuto and Remmy to complete their character development before the series ends. A lot of creatures of the week get wasted very quickly without any chance for a plot to develop around them. They wasted one with huge plot potential within 3-4 minutes of its entrance.

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Chousei Kantai Sazer X: FIGHT! Warriors of the Stars.(Or however else you wish to translate that)

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This movie was.....medicore. It wasn't "ZOMG great!" but it also wasn't "WTF! This sucks." The story was somewhat interesting bringing back Bosquito from Gransazers. Was also interesting how they combined all 3 universes. The effects had good production value too, it was really nice seeing the character in film quality. However, the fights were mainly a big mess, the acting was somewhat poor at times(mainly from Sazer X cast), overall seemed rushed at times. Some scenes or shots made me cringe at how badly they were done. It really seems like the movie was somewhat rushed and didn't give them a chance to do many takes.
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Sazer X ep 36

[HIDE]This episode had unbelievable timing....if I hadn't seen the movie I might not have noticed that this week's kaiju was a 1 headed Mammoth Bosquito...(yes from the Sazer X movie) They basically removed the heads, put a plate to cover the holes and added a head higher up on the body...it wasn't even repainted... They also threw in more Megarions...(yes from Justirisers) It really seems like they rushed these final episodes I'm really getting disappointed by how this is turning out. The story is really moving along, but a little too quickly at times I think. I really wish they had more time and money to finish this series off right.[/HIDE]
 

kyo28

Member
It's a shame a good series as this one needs to come to a premature, rushed ending ... if only there was a way to increase the budget (better marketing? better TV ratings?)
 

Aoi Kurenai

Mad Skillz
My guess is that the movie wasn't supposed to help pay for the series, but once TOHO saw how bad it did, coupled with the declining ratings, canceling it seemed like the logical thing to do.

It really is a shame though, that TOHO had to cancel the franchise as well. Sazer X hasn't been my favorite series, but it's enjoyable and the plots are interesting and captivating. The one thing I loved the most were the suits, I'm guessing those probably turned the kids off from the series as well. From the looks of things, Sazer X sorta feels like the Hibiki of the franchise in the sense that it's vastly different. I think Sazer X could have been the best entry thus far in the franchise had it not been canceled. The plots were being built up to nicely and everything was going great. Now everything's rushed, and the production is really failing, as is the stunt crew.

I do hope that the franchise can come back one day, this really was one of the best franchises on the air in the past few years and it really sucks that it had to come to an end so soon. But who knows? Maybe TOHO will take a year off to retool the franchise and we'll see a 4th series next year.
 

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