Archie Revive Sonic Underground

Skyknight

Lurker
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHVrnZZwbQc"]Sonic Underground Intro - YouTube[/ame]



Yes, that's right, thanks to the reruns on Disney XD, the third and final of the 90s Sonic cartoons is to be revisited in the pages of Archie Comics.

The show featured Sonic battling Dr. Robotnik with the help of his twin siblings Manic and Sonia. Over the course of the series, they utlizied their powerful musical instruments to stir up not only trouble, but a catchy (or irritatingly infectious) song and dance routine, all while on a quest to find their mother (which they sorta do very quickly in the show, but for one reason or another, let her slip through their fingers), fulfill a prophecy and form the ruling council that will bring about a new Golden Age on Mobius!

http://www.destructoid.com/exclusive...e-236442.phtml

The story will be written by Sonic's current top scribe Ian Flynn and will be published in Sonic Universe, beggining with Issue 50.

Hmm...I'm a bit mixed on Underground, some eps I like (like the Queen's near marraige to Robotnik, the Floating Island trilogy etc) but I could really do with less of the musical numbers. Still, bubbling beneath the surface of a corny show was a strong premise and I hope it gets fleshed out here. I'd love to know who Sonic, Manic and Sonia's father was and what happened to him.)
 

Allio

DAIMON PAWNCH
Wonder how this will go in the comics. The only characters so far named "Sonia" and "Manic" are Sonic's kids from the Light X years later...

so perhaps another trip into the future?

Perhaps we will finally find out what exactly it was that King Sonic went into the past to fix
 

Skyknight

Lurker
No, this is going to be set in the universe of the cartoon, not a follow-up to the "X Years Later" stories, Sonia and Manic are Sonic's siblings in the show, and they will be here (though yes, it is a bit ackward there his and Sally's kids, but in the case of "X Years Later", that was just supposed to be fanwank made at a time they didnt think they would ever do a follow-up to Underground)
 

Allio

DAIMON PAWNCH
No, this is going to be set in the universe of the cartoon, not a follow-up to the "X Years Later" stories, Sonia and Manic are Sonic's siblings in the show, and they will be here (though yes, it is a bit ackward there his and Sally's kids, but in the case of "X Years Later", that was just supposed to be fanwank made at a time they didnt think they would ever do a follow-up to Underground)

I knew that... but I didn't know if it was going to be Archie series doing an "Underground" story... but they are doing a separate comic? I guess it will be one of the other multiverses, such as anti-mobius?

edit: Just looked it up, Sonic Underground had been in the comics before. They met with Zonic, when Evil Sonic (pre-Scourge) gave the pieces to the wrong Eggman (Underground). So I'm looking forward to this
 
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SamuraiEchidna

Active Member
You'd think, as a Sonic fan, I'd have something to say about all this. But I really don't.

Sonic Underground, of all the Sonic cartoons, was one of the worst ones ever made. The comics, which explored a deeper lore than the games ever will, was never something that interested me. So, I guess they are a perfect fit for each other? :shrug:

Well, it's there for whoever wants it, I guess.
 

Skyknight

Lurker
True, like I said above, the show was corny but had an interesting premise that in the hands of seasoned writers, it can be interesting.

I used to be a big Archie Sonic fan, but even with the sharp refocus Flynn has given the book since the "dork age" of the 2000s, it's just an endless loop like the video games...outside of some choice fan fave side characters (mainly just Bunnie and Antwoine), the main ones never grow up or learn different things. Part of the reason I count the "X Years Later" stories as the real canon, because at least there Sonic and Sally were allowed to mature (though how Sega approved a married Sonic I'll never know, probably the excuse was it was an AU and didnt "count")
 

SamuraiEchidna

Active Member
(though how Sega approved a married Sonic I'll never know, probably the excuse was it was an AU and didnt "count")

The key word here is approve. Sega, most likely just Sega of America since Archie comics and the American cartoons are NOT in circulation in Japan, only gives Archie the A-Okay without ever fully reading into the material. As long as the official game characters aren't portrayed in a way that goes EXTREMELY against the image that Sega has in mind, they could care less how deeply they explore the lore, develop the characters, attach new characters, and so fourth.
 

Herman the German

Treasure Cards of the Underworld
I doubt Sega of America doesn't give that little a sh*t about stuff. For some reason, for example, they're EXTREMELY adamant about not having Eggman Nega in the comics but never really seem to give a good reason. They were apparently also reluctant to have Archie use the Neo Metal Sonic design at all. :B
 

SamuraiEchidna

Active Member
Really? I'd love to know where you get your information. But if that is true, then I think Sega has to have their legal reasons. I have heard that Sega hasn't always been on good terms with everyone at Archie. I've heard crazy things about a certain Ken Penders.

Either way, I'm just not an Archie Sonic supporter. Archie's version basically took SatAM and rolled with it, heavily. The game universe has NEVER reflected it and the stories were meant to be something TOTALLY different. To this day, I am still perplexed how chillidogs have suddenly become canon in the games. I'd rather have a comic that reflects the video game universe than the Archie universe any day. Although, to be fair, the art in the comics has gotten LEAGUES better than it has ever been.
 

Allio

DAIMON PAWNCH
remember it's been mentioned the X Years Later stories are just a possibility. There is two different stories that deals with the future that have been told, the Light One (one with King Sonic) a dark one (which deals with a younger Lara-su, and a evil knuckles)
 

Skyknight

Lurker
remember it's been mentioned the X Years Later stories are just a possibility. There is two different stories that deals with the future that have been told, the Light One (one with King Sonic) a dark one (which deals with a younger Lara-su, and a evil knuckles)

Yeah, "a possibility", only in this day and age of unchanging status quoes people are actually ignoring that b.s and counting any story that advances the characters as legit futures. It's the same with Spider-Girl fans, that's a "possible future" for Spider-Man characters, but makes FAR MORE SENSE than the 616 canon
 

Herman the German

Treasure Cards of the Underworld
Really? I'd love to know where you get your information. But if that is true, then I think Sega has to have their legal reasons.

The author's own forums. :B
I have heard that Sega hasn't always been on good terms with everyone at Archie. I've heard crazy things about a certain Ken Penders.
I hear the rumors of Penders being disliked by SEGA are vastly exaggerated. Although, with that laughable lawsuit he's trying to roll up against Archie & SEGA now…

Either way, I'm just not an Archie Sonic supporter. Archie's version basically took SatAM and rolled with it, heavily. The game universe has NEVER reflected it and the stories were meant to be something TOTALLY different. To this day, I am still perplexed how chillidogs have suddenly become canon in the games. I'd rather have a comic that reflects the video game universe than the Archie universe any day. Although, to be fair, the art in the comics has gotten LEAGUES better than it has ever been.
What I like about Archie Sonic since Flynn took over writing is that it's been a good hybrid of Archie/SatAM lore, game elements and entirely original stuff. It's been more closely sticking to the games' source material while still being it's own thing and not a 1-to-1 rip-off. : D
 

Vitor

When The Fruit Of Life Corrupts Men
Seriously, Underground is the bottom of the rung as far as Sonic cartoon adaptions go

They'd have better luck just reviving The Adventures Of Sonic The Hedgehog
 

Vitor

When The Fruit Of Life Corrupts Men
Either way, I'm just not an Archie Sonic supporter. Archie's version basically took SatAM and rolled with it, heavily. The game universe has NEVER reflected it and the stories were meant to be something TOTALLY different. To this day, I am still perplexed how chillidogs have suddenly become canon in the games. I'd rather have a comic that reflects the video game universe than the Archie universe any day. Although, to be fair, the art in the comics has gotten LEAGUES better than it has ever been.

The game was done a little bit more faithfully in Sonic The Comic from Fleetway/Quality in Britain. From what I've heard, I follows the comics to a point where it gets a little stale
 

SamuraiEchidna

Active Member
The game was done a little bit more faithfully in Sonic The Comic from Fleetway/Quality in Britain. From what I've heard, I follows the comics to a point where it gets a little stale

I read a few issues of it, and I kind of liked it, until I caught wind that they turned Super Sonic into some evil, demented character like a Jekyll & Hyde thing for Sonic. And from what I heard, the later issues eventually started getting more creative and adding their own material, which quickly turned me ff.

What's worse is, I can't even catch a break in Japan, Sonic's home country. There was a short manga series made for Sonic, but it was a bunch out of gags with huge, out-of-character moments. It was a joke manga that practically reduced Sonic to Newspaper Funnies.
 

Ziginz Zegell

No Fear, No Pain.
What's worse is, I can't even catch a break in Japan, Sonic's home country. There was a short manga series made for Sonic, but it was a bunch out of gags with huge, out-of-character moments. It was a joke manga that practically reduced Sonic to Newspaper Funnies.


You always have the old Sonic OVA to fall back on right? When I was younger it was the best thing I had ever seen done with Sonic. Ironically...it wasn't long after watching it that I lost interest in Sonic if I remember correctly. Might be wrong though. Then again after you've seen Sonic and Metal Sonic throw down like that, is there really any reason to keep going? :laugh:

Sonic Underground was fun, but the music bits were just too corny for me. The best thing about the series in my memory were the Knuckle episodes. The heroes were captured and about to be robotocized and Kuckles just gets pissed and wrecks everything. It was great...Probably why I love a good, furious character now. Hmmm, now that I think about it, Underground may have had a bigger impact on my life then i would like to admit...

As for Sega...the only thing they are doing that interests me right now is Anarchy Reigns. Sonic->Jack. My childhood to adulthood in action.
 

Vitor

When The Fruit Of Life Corrupts Men
You always have the old Sonic OVA to fall back on right? When I was younger it was the best thing I had ever seen done with Sonic. Ironically...it wasn't long after watching it that I lost interest in Sonic if I remember correctly. Might be wrong though. Then again after you've seen Sonic and Metal Sonic throw down like that, is there really any reason to keep going?

Most people consider that absolute **** and I can't even begin to understand why

I loved all the voice actors, especially Sonic's

It didn't feel stupid, it felt fun and dark
 

SamuraiEchidna

Active Member
The OVA was great! It reflects the height of Classic Sonic's fame and everything fans loved about him. It was as if someone took the animation team that made the anime cutscenes from Sonic CD and told them to make a Sonic movie.
 

Herman the German

Treasure Cards of the Underworld
The OVA was great! It reflects the height of Classic Sonic's fame and everything fans loved about him. It was as if someone took the animation team that made the anime cutscenes from Sonic CD and told them to make a Sonic movie.

Strangely enough, that's not the case, even though they are very similar in style. Studio Pierrot made the OVA whereas the anime scenes in Sonic CD where done by Toel animation. (not to be confused with Toei)
 

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