About Kiva

Vitor

When The Fruit Of Life Corrupts Men
Okay, allow me a to pose a question

Why does Kiva get so much flack from the KR fanbase?

It certainly isn't a show for everyone, but it is by no means a bad entry in the series

I mean do you really need to go out of your way with a fan edit with an overtly annoying character like Otoya front and center just to enjoy it?
 

Eldar

Member
Ever wonder, what if Stephanie Meyer wrote KR? You don't have to wonder anymore after watching Kiva.
 

Knegative

Just 'Neg' will suffice.
That ending was so insanely and hilariously awesome ;; If your heart doesn't melt at how adorable Nago is, you don't have one :mad:



I really wasn't feeling Kiva's regular forms and Emperor Form pretty much improved everything, for my money. The rider kick and new finishers for Garulu, especially. I was genuinely really pleased to see it as much as we did.

Maybe we could get some effects parts out of Bandai, some day?

I buy Taiga really falling in love with Mio, and Wataru and her were cute together. Taiga busting up on Bishop <3 So yeah, the love triangle worked for me, too.

As much as I loved Otoya and wanted him to get everything he wanted, I did feel insanely bad for Yuri :(

Loves me some Kiva :thumbs:
 

lazycoconut

I liked him when he wasn't a god
The main characters were either obnoxious, arrogant jerks (Otoya, Nago, Taiga), whiny emo-kids (Wataru), damsels in distress (all the women) or poor attempts at comic relief (Kengo, Shizuka, the Arms Monsters.) Every single woman in the show was defined as a sex object for some man. The villains weren't scary. The romances were boring, terribly written, and took up WAY too much time that could have been spent on more interesting things. Our main hero, Wataru, was not remotely interesting or likeable. It tried way too hard to be "edgy" and "serious" but failed at being either of those things.

I do like the suit designs, particularly Saga's, but then they made Taiga stop using it in favour of Dark Kiva :redface2: So, yes. That's why I disliked Kiva. Can't speak for anyone else.
 

CKShadowmoon

Kamen Rider Beserker
Ever wonder, what if Stephanie Meyer wrote KR? You don't have to wonder anymore after watching Kiva.
..... No just no stephanie meyer is one of the worst things to happen to literature ever. she can't write for ****, the Kiva writers at least tried to make a new interesting vampire story and though it wasnt the best KR series (though there were a lot of parts I liked) it was at least a 1000 times better than anything she has ever made.
 

Jacky392000

Open Your Amazons!
I actually loved it. in fact, it's the only Heisei KR series that made me care. there are certain parts of the series I didn't liked, of course.
 
I liked Wataru and Otoya. THe other riders not so much. This series felt like Den-O as it felt like it was written as an anime series. I mean "Shut-in super hero spends free time making violins while getting pep talks from his henshin device" sounds like something out of a whackJob anime(not a bad thing).

The biggest problem is the additonal cast. Mio felt tacted on and complicated the story(glad i missed most of her arch). And Keigo just turning in a rider-hating dousche didn't so anything for the story.

The ending wasn't THAT bad, It gave some closure to Wataru and Saga as bros and gave Nago a happy ending. Yeah, the whole 'pops we gotta stop the detroyer of worlds' was kinda meh, but at least Wataru had a big part in Decade.
 
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Dark Kabuto

In Justice, We Trust!
Ever wonder, what if Stephanie Meyer wrote KR? You don't have to wonder anymore after watching Kiva.
Okay, Kiva might not have been a perfect series but DO NOT lump it together with a piece of crap like Twilight!:shakefist
 

Eiji Hino

Someday...once more
i must be the one person who lied kiva. i thought it was a great show, defenetly one of my favorite KR shows. though the ending was a humorous cliffhanger, the series just felt complete with that.
 

Dark Kabuto

In Justice, We Trust!
i must be the one person who lied kiva. i thought it was a great show, defenetly one of my favorite KR shows. though the ending was a humorous cliffhanger, the series just felt complete with that.
I liked Kiva too, it had it's problems though like I said, Otoya easily stole the show...but I felt that the second half wasn't as strong as it's first.

perhaps if it focused on 1988 in the first half, then 2008 in the second half there probably wouldn't have been as many plot holes.
 

musashi03

HEROW
Otoya was its only saving grace for me... Everything else just felt senseless...

Yeah, I found Otoya sensible...
 

Galaxian

Lurker
KR Kiva has had the most and best character development I've seen in a KR series, and I love it for it.

Also, Emperor Form is my second favorite Rider design.
 

musashi03

HEROW
KR Kiva has had the most and best character development I've seen in a KR series, and I love it for it.
Huh?

Wataru was a loner who slowly tried to open up, regressed rapidly, and ended up a few inches more confident than he was before.

Nago was an ass in the beginning and did a complete 180 by becoming a moron.

Taiga killed so many yet didn't face any consequences. (Talk about perfect morality there)

Otoya loved a woman 70% of the show (IIRC), then completely forgot about her after he meets another... Not only that, his character also did a 180 from becoming a happy-go-lucky playboy to a devoted dark suicidal emo dude in a few episodes.

Character development? Really?
 

Galaxian

Lurker
Huh?

Wataru was a loner who slowly tried to open up, regressed rapidly, and ended up a few inches more confident than he was before.
Wataru had no confidence in himself at the beginning of the series and he he almost completed Maslow's Hierarchy of Need by the end.

Nago was an ass in the beginning and did a complete 180 by becoming a moron.
Nago's tenure as a comic relief character was only a sidestep of his development. Before that he had already shown signs of changing, he had started to care about his comrades more than his silly, self-impose, mission.

Taiga killed so many yet didn't face any consequences. (Talk about perfect morality there)
No one ever said that only good characters can get development. Taiga was introduced as being a two-faced, self-righteous prick with no regards for others. Right at the moment he though he had everything in the world, the the ground was ripped apart right beneath his feet, letting him to crawls his way back.

Otoya loved a woman 70% of the show (IIRC), then completely forgot about her after he meets another... Not only that, his character also did a 180 from becoming a happy-go-lucky playboy to a devoted dark suicidal emo dude in a few episodes.
I never said Otoya had character development. He was a the same from beginning to end, it just so happens that "same" makes for a great character all on its own.
 

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