2020-2021: Kamen Rider Saber

Shogun_Master

Why is every good TV show Cancelled
Well, someone who claims to have seen images of the suit began circulating a worded description of the thing & somehow we missed it, but most people aren't sure how to take it. Someone made a mock-up too, based on his description, which he says is close, but it's an extremely rough sketch & I don't want to post the link, as either the site that it's on or the person who posted/ made the sketch seems to support A LOT of fake news- like, really bad. I guess look it up, but don't go too far down the rabbit hole.

Anyway, description makes it sound like a W styled dragon/ unicorn knight who uses daggers to transform. Plus, there seems to also be some sort of underlying computer theme going on.

Basically, the helmet's antennae are two crossed swords, with the extremely stylized hilts forming the visor. One side is red fire, the other side is a blue wing & there is a unicorn horn sticking out from the forehead.

Chest has a dragon's head facing downward, so the top is armor over one arm & the jaw is part of the breastplate. He also has a hanging, cape-like fringe coming down off his belt which trails all the way to the ankles, but it's only on the dragon side of him. The unicorn side doesn't have one.
 

Dr Kain

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I'm detecting a CGI hate boner from you.
Yes, anime does not work in CGI. Just look at the new Ghost in the Shell SAC series. It looks like a PS3 video game. The animation in the Ultraman anime was atrocious too.

That is a bad thing.
Since when is not editing down the story a bad thing?

Another sign you're a normie, you actually drop anything. The instant you drop anything your opinion is null and void.
First off, I am the last person you should say drops something. I'm still watching the god damn Simpsons even though it hasn't been good in over 20 years.

Second, dropping something you don't like doesn't make you anything.

Invasion of The Astro Monster, Tristar Zilla, and Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 1993 are closer to that spot.
I'm actually surprised you like Invasion of Astro-Monster. Doesn't it have too much character development for your taste?

The 98 movie sucks though. It's just not a good movie overall.

I was going to point out she isn't important in this one but if you haven't even seen other Fate manure series I'm questioning the validity of your claims.
Claims of what? Also, I didn't know I was required to see other Fate series to enjoy Zero. I was never told that when I borrowed my friend's BLu-Rays from him.

Character development can qualify as padding, next you'll tell me every scene in the original Dragon Ball Z was the necessary.
Padding for what? The whole point of a story is to develop the characters. If they don't develop the characters, why should I care about the story? That makes no sense.

And if a scene of Dragonball was in the manga, then yes, it is necessary.

They're the propagandists along with people like Gigguk and Anime Man that determine tastes which you seem to easily fall for their memes.
I've never even heard of those two. I also haven't paid attention to ANN in at least a decade. I have no idea what you are even going on about here.

Because of broadcast mandate.
His point is that Sentai still worked around its run time to tell its story. In fact, while some episodes could have utilized the additional minutes, it made for tighter plots with less stock footage.
 

Captain Shark

An ocean of depression and misery
Just look at the new Ghost in the Shell SAC series. It looks like a PS3 video game.
Using a bad example and using the same tired "compares to insert console here", do tell us how it compares to PS3 games specifically and not say 360 or PS4 or Wii.
Second, dropping something you don't like doesn't make you anything.
It does, it shows a lack of will power and untrustworthiness.
Doesn't it have too much character development for your taste?
It doesn't have a lot of fat, character development isn't always trimable fat.
The whole point of a story is to develop the characters.
Some are, others are designed to push the boundaries of technology or have political messages or construct entire settings. You limit yourself to storytelling memes, I don't.
If they don't develop the characters, why should I care about the story?
If they're not even real why should I care? I don't care and never have and never will. So don't care, just judge.
And if a scene of Dragonball was in the manga, then yes, it is necessary.
Never read a manga in my life so I wouldn't know much like you and other Fate/garbage. Side note you might actually like Apocrypha.
 

Toku Prime

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Just in case there's anyone who is following Saber news but not Zero-One news, the current rumor is that Saber will continue the trend of the last three Rider series and begin on the first weekend of September. This means Zero-One will have at most 45 episodes.
 

Toku Prime

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Wikipedia says 3rd September 2017. That's why Ex-Aid "only" had 45 episodes. Ex-Aid was the last series to begin in October.
 

Shogun_Master

Why is every good TV show Cancelled
Filler episodes can be ok, as long as they're used for world building or character development. But, if it's just kind of there-- especially if it's a show that's trying to have a plot-- then, yeah, it feels like a waste of space.
 

Dr Kain

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Filler episodes can be ok, as long as they're used for world building or character development. But, if it's just kind of there-- especially if it's a show that's trying to have a plot-- then, yeah, it feels like a waste of space.
Well that's what I mean. If it doesn't advance anything, it's kind of pointless. I don't mind shows being 50/50 in a story/filler ratio, but I feel like 40 episodes would be more ideal than 50. But then again, I think Sentai needs to do the Ultraman approach.
 

Shogun_Master

Why is every good TV show Cancelled
Very are having of ze logo now.


The ten-ten looks a bit like a book, so they are surmising that either the collectible may be a book, or that there will be European fairy tale undertones. If they do that, though, I wonder how esoteric they can get digging up lesser known things from different cultures before they start to get worried that the kids will be lost. Lol

It does look like a European knight thing, though, given the shape of the sword design encorporated in the logo.
 

Toku Prime

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A couple of thoughts about the logo.

As Shogun Master pointed out, it does look like there's an open book on that top right edge. Is it a clue or coincidence? I guess we'll have to wait for more info...and possibly even longer than usual given the way Bandai have clamped down on the toy catalog leaks.

Series logos tend to use the same colours as the Rider's base form. So will Saber have a more monochrome look?
 
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raden238

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A couple of thoughts about the logo.

As Shogun Master pointed out, it does look like there's an open book on that top right edge. Is it a clue or coincidence? I guess we'll have to wait for more info...and possibly even longer than usual given the way Bandai have clamped down on the toy catalog leaks.

Series logos tend to use the same colours as the Rider's base form. So will Saber have a more monochrome look?
Yeah I do see an open book apart of the logo on the top right side. Don't tell me books are going to be the collectiables for this series 🤣
If the show focuses on swords, it would be nice to have every form change of Saber armed with a different sword to fit the motif of the suit.
 

Shogun_Master

Why is every good TV show Cancelled
Not sure if true, but someone said the collectibles were called "emblems," by which, I think, they are referring to Standards. Maybe they're transported in book form, or he keeps them all in a book, like the medals from OOO.

They also did bring up Fairy Tales as a sub-theme & there being 4 main riders introduced immediately, or early on, that the series will focus on.

I will say again, I'm kind of curious how deep into European folklore they will go. Most people are mainly aware of things from Norse, Roman & Greek culture, & slightly aware of things from English & Celtic culture. Slavic rarely ever comes up, aside from Vampires, which is a shame. I guess you could do Greek, given that Assassin's Creed Odyssey has made it wholly apparent that Medieval Europe as a whole was secretly a cheap ripoff of Ancient Greece the whole time. Lol
 

Toku Prime

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Yeah I do see an open book apart of the logo on the top right side. Don't tell me books are going to be the collectiables for this series 🤣
I mean, is it any weirder than fruit, or eyeballs, or super chonky pocket watches?

I'm going to throw a curve ball out there though. What do you use to write in a book? A pen. And what are pens? Mightier than the sword!
 

Shogun_Master

Why is every good TV show Cancelled
I think I read somewhere that they are doing another Den-O movie.

Then, someone on Rangerboard mentioned there being a Momotaro story in Japanese culture (clearly, I knew from watching it that Momotaro was supposed to be based on something, I was just never entirely sure what.)

Then, with the fairy tale thing, it kind of became obvious as to what they are doing. I'm starting to think that some of these rumors may be legit.
 

Toku Prime

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I think I read somewhere that they are doing another Den-O movie.
"Kamen Rider Den-O: Pretty Den-O." I'm guessing that it's a short, as it's airing alongside three other films as part of the "Toei Manga Festival 2020." It was meant to come out in April but has been pushed back until August. Aside from the four Imagin, Naomi is the only other character from the show who has been announced as appearing in it.

The plot features them going back to 1989 (the first year of the Heisei era) and trying to help a little girl named Anna, who has run away from home, only to be attacked by Ikadevil from Shocker, who hijacks the DenLiner.

Apparently after the main story finishes there will then be some sort of quiz hosted by the Imagin.
Then, someone on Rangerboard mentioned there being a Momotaro story in Japanese culture (clearly, I knew from watching it that Momotaro was supposed to be based on something, I was just never entirely sure what.)
The main Imagin are all based upon Japanese legends, expect for Seig who is apparently based upon the ballet 'Swan Lake.'

Momotaros is, as you mentioned, based on the legend of Momotaro. This is probably the one that gets referenced the most in-series, to the point where there are some parallels between Ryotaro's story and that of Momotaro.

Urutaros is based on the fairy tale Urashima Taro.
Kintaros is based on a Japanese folk hero called Kintaro.
Ryutaros is based on the legend of Taro the Dragon Boy.
(I'll admit I had to look up these three again)

Vega, Altair and Deneb are the names of stars. Also, in Japanese legend Vega and Altair were lovers who were separated from each other, but once per year Deneb builds them a bridge so that they can reunite for just a single day. In the show, Deneb is the Imagin partner of Zeronos, who has two main forms - Vega and Altair - and both the stars and the legend are significant to Zeronos' story.
 
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raden238

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I mean, is it any weirder than fruit, or eyeballs, or super chonky pocket watches?
To me yes because when I think of books, I think of school and education which besides Fourze, I don't think Kamen Rider wants viewers to think about that. Kamen Rider is suppose to be our reward for doing our homework and after school.


I'm going to throw a curve ball out there though. What do you use to write in a book? A pen. And what are pens? Mightier than the sword!
Oh you might be onto something here. 🤣
 

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