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  • They would take exception to that, since they would probably think you don't think properly if you like Touhou. They're the kind of people who say that anyone who likes anything they don't like is an idiot and has horrible taste. They also counter anyone who tries to tell them that people have a right to their own opinions by saying something like "So that means it's okay to say Twilight is better than Shakespeare, even though only a moron would say that."

    They don't like any of the DK music, or really anything about it. Their main complains seem to be:

    - The actors can't act
    - The suit work is very clumsy
    - The plot is bad and generic compared to Ryuki's plot
    - The characters are bland and not interesting and lack the depth and entertainment value of the Ryuki characters
    - The music sucks
    You're making all of the same arguments that they hate, they have said that only idiots call people close-minded for not liking ****, and then they quoted someone who said "Let's be open-minded, but not so open minded that our brains fall out".

    Another complaint they have about DK is that the music sucks compared to Ryuki, they say just listen to the opening song from Dragon Knight and then listen to the opening song from Ryuki, and the difference in quality is clear.
    Don't even get started with TVtropes, they hate it with a passion since they think it says way too many good things about Bleach which they all hate. They won't accept any arguments if they originate from that site (they often call it "TVDopes"). I haven't heard them directly criticize Touhou's music, but they criticize pretty much everything else about it and say that the fans are some of the most obnoxious there are.

    As for DK, my friends love the classic Showa Riders but they also like the different plot of Ryuki, and feel like DK completely ruined it. In fact, if I told them you said that DK had the same feel as the classic Rider series, they would probably want to murder you.
    That still makes no sense, if fanart is needed to make up for the lack of/poorly drawn official art, then their argument is that the original must suck so badly that there's no point of drawing fanart for it. They also say that DK ruined Ryuki's plot by completely changing it and getting rid of all of the characters.
    Another argument they use is that when the fanart is better than the official art, then the original sucks so badly only idiots would make fanart of it in the first place. They said that they could just draw a stick figure and get millions of fans drawing fanart of it if it worked that way. As for the plot and characters, they generally hate the entire concept of "moe" and anything with lolis in it, and call all of the fans of such things pedophiles who live with their mothers and will never get a real girlfriend.

    As for Ryuki, they say that the American actors can't act worth ****, and they removed all of the awesome stuff like having a Rider who was a serial killer, and instead replaced it with a generic "lol alien overlord" plot.

    (Keep in mind I'm not saying this stuff, I'm just saying what they say, most of it is actually word - for - word).
    I have never seen it, but pretty much all of my friends agree it's a shitty remake and barely better than Saban's Masked Rider.

    One of them actually commented on the Touhou fighting game and said that the fact that ZUN had to hire someone else to do the art proves he sucks
    They think it's a horrible adaptation that got rid of all of the good characters and music, it sounds like they're grunting like pigs when walking in the suits. I am planning to watch the series you named, though. As for Touhou, they say things like it's pure faggotry weaboo **** with no plot, terrible art, and ZUN is a pedophile. They also say all Touhou fans are retarded pillow fuckers. They are pretty harsh.

    Speaking of MUGEN, I used to try to program characters for it, but I never released them because they sucked. It was fun, though.
    All of my friends hate Dragon Knight but most of them like Ryuki. Personally the Heisei series I have seen are Kabuto and Ryuki, and I want to watch Blade, Agito, W, and maybe Kuuga. As for the whole Touhou thing, I am basically neutral about it, I have no real interest in it but I do not despise it either like my friends do. They often spend time mocking it and saying how shitty it is.
    Well my friends have a very selective definition of media they consider to be acceptable, based on how "manly" it is. For example, they love the Showa Kamen Riders, but dislike most of the Heisei ones, especially Kiva and Decade. Also their reaction to something like Touhou referencing something they like, like JJBA, is as if they just saw Osama Bin Laden burning the American flag. (Maybe not the best example, since they're not all American, but you get the idea).
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