Kamen Rider Gaim Ep 38 - "Return of the Professor"

[kuroihikari]

Meh, I think redemption is a choice. It's the accepting of consequences that shouldn't be. You can be properly punished for your crimes and choose to be redeemed at the same time.

 

[live jetabare]

-For one thing not making Kouta's death a priority is not a redeeming a quality. He still wants to kill Kouta and just because its not at the the top of his to do list is doesn't make any better.

It's not just that; by not insisting into killing him, he's following what "Takatora" was telling him; he pretty much aknowledged, even perhaps he didn't realize it at that time, that what "Takatora" was telling him was true

-Also while he does care about Mai he pretty much doesn't care about her as a person same thing when he was still friends with Kouta. If he did care about Mai as a person he would have let Mai tell people about the Helheim. He also wouldn't have kidnapped her.

At this time, he's convinced that what he does is the correct thing. Besides once again, "Takatora" indeed points it to him. Which means that, subconscially, he's aware of how his care for Mai is selfish.

Micchi really is just to far gone to be redeemed. Remember even his actor thinks Micchi has gone to far and he really needs to die. Micchi is incredibly petty and insane and doesn't deserve any redemption.

Is Micchy that more insane than Gamou from Fourze? Gamou was responsible of his best friends's deaths, pretty much killed Kengo, and was ready to destroy Japan to join the Presenters; still, Gentaro found the strength to forgive him and to make him realize how misguided he was. He didn't deserve redemption either; yet, he manages to find it, reconciling with the Kamen Rider Club, and even doing a last good action before dying. And don't forget that Gamou was the one who was responsible of the whole Zodiarts situation, while Micchy is pretty much victim of circumstances he had no control about, and much of the petty way he sees people is also Takatora's fault, because of how he raised him.

 

[DemiGomoramon]

I have no idea what argument you are trying to make there because it really make no sense since Micchi's conscience seemed to die when Mai slapped him.

 

[live jetabare]

I have no idea what argument you are trying to make there because it really make no sense since Micchi's conscience seemed to die when Mai slapped him.

And what do you think Takatora's "ghost" is ?

 

[NeonZ]

I understand plot being more important than power levels, but completely disregarding them is a bit too much. Kiwami is TWO levels above Energy riders. I could almost swallow Kachidoki staggering from one shot of Sonic Arrow, but Kiwami shouldn't even rely on Kouta convictions when the power gap is this big.

According to the official stats Kiwami is actually inferior to Kachidoki in raw physical power. That has even been shown in the series, with Kachidoki striking some overlords barehanded and sending them flying while Kiwami clashes weapons against them right afterwards. So, they aren't really on completely different levels, just have different specialties, with Kiwami having the weapon switch and stronger finishers.

I don't think it's really "disregarding power levels" either. They did act like Micchy was stronger than he was supposed to be. Now, the excuse for that power up was weak, considering the big boost that he got from it, but it's not like they just wrote the others to be weak and no one reacted to it or said anything.

Also, don't forget that one of Zangetsu Shin's arrows did throw Kachidoki from the Yggdrazil building in its own debut.

 

[Hentailover]

Except you are wrong.

One the Energy Riders aren't created equal. Some are more powerful than others. Sigurd and Jinba Lemon for example are pretty much equal. While Marika is supposedly more powerful than Jinba Lemon, but weaker than Kachidoki. And Melon and Lemon are the most powerful capable of taking on Kachidoki as we saw with Takatora.

If we go by levels, Kiwami is probably alittle bit more powerful than Kachidoki (its main strength isn't power levels really, but versatility) and its difference in its power levels with Zangetsu Shin are probably not "two levels" as you describe. Probably a little bit wider than between Zangetsu Shin and Kachidoki, which is nearly en par with each other.

That difference between energy riders is due to individual skill of the users. They all use the generic, bulk produced Energy Driver, which can't be different in strength.

But as it was pointed out, Kiwami apparently isn't meant to be mover physically strong than Kachidoki, according to official stats, so, yeah, I guess him actually getting hurt by just taking Mitchy's finisher like an idiot is alright... But Mitchy shrugging off their combined attack AND Kaito insisting that they can't defeat him now is BS, as far as I am concerned.

 

[Captain McSteamy]

That difference between energy riders is due to individual skill of the users. They all use the generic, bulk produced Energy Driver, which can't be different in strength.

All Energy Riders from weakest to strongest based on punching power (including Gaim Jimber):

Marika (Peach):

• Punching power: 12.1 t.
• Kicking power: 16 t.
• Maximum jump height: 27 m.
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 5.5 sec.

Gaim Jimber Lemon, Jimber Cherry, Jimber Peach, or Jimber Melon (absolutely no difference except for the enhanced skill of each version i.e. Cherry's hearing ability)

• Punching power: 13.7 t.
• Kicking power: 17.9 t.
• Maximum jump height: 25 m. (82 ft.)
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 5.6 sec.

Sigurd (Cherry):

• Punching power: 14 t.
• Kicking power: 18.9 t.
• Maximum jump height: 24 m.
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 6.1 sec.

Zangetsu Shin (Melon) [no difference between Mitsuzane & Takatora]:

• Punching power: 14.3 t.
• Kicking power: 18.2 t.
• Maximum jump height: 24 m.
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 6.1 sec.

Baron Lemon Energy Arms:

• Punching power: 15.1 t.
• Kicking power: 18.3 t.
• Maximum jump height: 25 m.
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 5.9 sec.

Duke (Lemon):

• Punching power: 15.7 t.
• Kicking power: 19.5 t.
• Maximum jump height: 22 m. (72 ft.)
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 6.4 sec.

Your assertion that all Energy Riders are the equal except for the skill of the user is completely false. Hell even Baron & Duke both using Genesis Drivers and Lemon Energy Lockseeds are not equal in physical power; Duke is physically stronger than Baron & Duke can run at maximum speed for longer than Baron, but Baron can jump higher than Duke.

Gaim Kachidoki Arms:

• Punching power: 16 t.
• Kicking power: 21.4 t.
• Maximum jump height: 16 m. (52 ft.)
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 7.2 sec.

Gaim Kiwami Arms:

• Punching power: 14.5 t.
• Kicking power: 20.4 t.
• Maximum jump height: 20 m. (65 ft.)
• Maximum running speed: 100 m. per 5.8 sec.

Gaim Kachidoki Arms is physically stronger than every Energy Rider.

Gaim Kiwami Arms out classes the punching power of all Energy Riders except for both Lemon Energy Lockseed users, & Gaim Kiwami Arms out classes the kicking power of all Energy Riders.

 

[Tendou Soujiro]

That difference between energy riders is due to individual skill of the users. They all use the generic, bulk produced Energy Driver, which can't be different in strength.

There is literally nothing that backs up this retarded claim.

 

[Captain McSteamy]

There is literally nothing that backs up this retarded claim.

As I pointed out with actual facts and without insults.

 

[Undrave]

And what do you think Takatora's "ghost" is ?

Micchy's self loathing. Takatora's ghost isn't trying to convince Micchy to change course, he's just insulting him. He's just giving him more motivation to keep his way!